System files take up 160 GB fo 256 GB drive and the system drinds to a halt

Hi all, I have a 2022 M2 macbook air with 256 GB drive running Ventura 13.7.3. I have 40 GB in programs, 8 GB in data, 30 GB in OS and 160 GB of something else. I spoke to Apple and they suggested I emptied my bin and considered reducing the number of installed application programs.


Does anyone have a suggestion how to purge the computer and free up the 160 GB of disk? I tracked down a culprit somewhere in /Libraries but the directory names get more and more cryptic and I'd hesitate to delete without further information.


That said, I also have an Intel Imac, in which 800 GB out of a 1TB drive are clogged up with System data. The problem seems endemic.


Does anyone have any useful suggestions?

MacBook Air 13″, macOS 10.14

Posted on Feb 13, 2025 4:15 AM

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Posted on Feb 13, 2025 4:54 AM

Manage Storage


Apple’s final word on managing the “System Data” category:


System Data: Contains files not listed here. It includes system files like log files, caches, VM files, and runtime resources. Temporary files, fonts, app support files, and plug-ins are also included.


macOS manages them, and the size varies based on your Mac’s state.


Users have control over the User Account Folder (Home Folder). All other areas are inaccessible.


It’s good computer practice to keep at least 20% to 25% of the total drive capacity empty to avoid unintended consequences.


Purgeable Space is controlled by the operating system. When the system needs more empty space, it moves some purgeable space to empty space.


There’s no user action to hasten this transition. It can take days or longer.


The links below help identify what’s taking up space on the internal drive and provide ways to remove user-controlled data (Home Folder).


Rebuild the Spotlight index on your Mac.


What is “Other” storage on a Mac, and how can I clean it?


Free up storage space on your Mac.


GrandPerspective


How to delete Time Machine snapshots on your Mac.


This often occurs if the Time Machine Drive isn’t attached to the computer and TM Backup is set to run on a schedule.


TM Backup makes snapshots on the internal drive until the Time Machine Drive is attached. Then, the snapshots are transferred to the external drive.


View APFS snapshots in Disk Utility on Mac


See used and available storage space on your Mac.


Locate backups of your iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch.


Delete a user or group on Mac


If you use a suite of Adobe applications on this computer, they may create large cache files that can be removed. However, the Adobe cache files will be recreated as the applications need them.


https://helpx.adobe.com/ca/premiere-pro/kb/clear-cache.html


The same clearing of System Cache files can be achieved by booting into Safe Mode. They will be recreated as the system requires. 




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Feb 13, 2025 4:54 AM in response to profbonev

Manage Storage


Apple’s final word on managing the “System Data” category:


System Data: Contains files not listed here. It includes system files like log files, caches, VM files, and runtime resources. Temporary files, fonts, app support files, and plug-ins are also included.


macOS manages them, and the size varies based on your Mac’s state.


Users have control over the User Account Folder (Home Folder). All other areas are inaccessible.


It’s good computer practice to keep at least 20% to 25% of the total drive capacity empty to avoid unintended consequences.


Purgeable Space is controlled by the operating system. When the system needs more empty space, it moves some purgeable space to empty space.


There’s no user action to hasten this transition. It can take days or longer.


The links below help identify what’s taking up space on the internal drive and provide ways to remove user-controlled data (Home Folder).


Rebuild the Spotlight index on your Mac.


What is “Other” storage on a Mac, and how can I clean it?


Free up storage space on your Mac.


GrandPerspective


How to delete Time Machine snapshots on your Mac.


This often occurs if the Time Machine Drive isn’t attached to the computer and TM Backup is set to run on a schedule.


TM Backup makes snapshots on the internal drive until the Time Machine Drive is attached. Then, the snapshots are transferred to the external drive.


View APFS snapshots in Disk Utility on Mac


See used and available storage space on your Mac.


Locate backups of your iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch.


Delete a user or group on Mac


If you use a suite of Adobe applications on this computer, they may create large cache files that can be removed. However, the Adobe cache files will be recreated as the applications need them.


https://helpx.adobe.com/ca/premiere-pro/kb/clear-cache.html


The same clearing of System Cache files can be achieved by booting into Safe Mode. They will be recreated as the system requires. 




Feb 13, 2025 4:54 AM in response to profbonev

Add on


From another contributor @etresoft regarding Free Space and Available Space 


Free vs available disk space huge differe… - Apple Community


Quote >>  “ The "available" storage is the amount of used storage that the operating system could automatically delete if it felt that it was really necessary. The "free" storage is the amount that you can actually use for something.


There are system processes that run in the background and automatically delete some of the "available" storage and convert it to "free". If you completely run out of storage, then those system processes will try a little harder. When you "delete" files you are just hinting to the operating system that you don't need those files anymore. The operating system will eventually remove them, but on its own schedule.


Certain tools will allow you to force the issue and manually clean up some of this storage and manually delete local snapshots. But that is only temporary. "  << End Quote 

Feb 17, 2025 1:59 AM in response to profbonev

profbonev wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion. I presume this will work, it is a tad brutal as a solution. If nothing else works, I'll have to put the system through purgatory.

Yes it will work.


Yes it is brutal.


This is a Fast and Easy way to start over from scratch


There are those of use who would suggest this method only as a " Last Step of Resort " if all other avenues have been exhausted


The fact that the computer has already reached this level of lack of space


This tends to indicate, based upon past experience, it will likely happen again, in time.


IMHO, it would be better to learn how to Manage the existing Drive Capacity rather to go through this experience again, in time



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