MacOS changed my Login picture and I want my old one back.

The login picture I set and that I like and want was changed by the OS to an avitar that I created and discarded years ago. I don't have a copy of the original. But! I any of you fine folks could point me in the direction of where the displayed login picture is stored, then I could retrieve it from time machine and restore it. As a secondary Q, any one know how I might keep spontaneous changes like this from happening in the future?

iMac 27″, macOS 12.7

Posted on Feb 21, 2025 1:01 PM

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Feb 23, 2025 5:53 PM in response to dmm153

Keep filing bug reports and feedback: Product Feedback - Apple


I know for a fact that Apple reads all submissions because they have implemented at least a couple of mine. Although most Feedback will be dismissed, none of it is ignored. You stand a much greater chance of having your feedback considered if you express clear justification for implementing a specific product feature that conveys indisputable customer benefits consistent with their Human Interface Guidelines, privacy, device integration and everything else that builds customer loyalty.


Feedback and product suggestions that are otherwise valid but runs counter to future marketing goals only they know about won't get implemented, and sometimes it takes years to fully appreciate the direction they decided to take. Apple tends to drive the market rather than be driven by it, and if it were any other way they'd relegate themselves to irrelevance. Who didn't dislike their abandonment of CD-ROM drives for example, or their unwillingness to pay exorbitant fees for Blu-Ray licensing a/k/a "bag of hurt". Entertainment is a significant part of Apple's business, but can you imagine entertainment today without on-demand streaming content and Apple TV? Like many others, their decision only makes sense in retrospect.


Apple also appears unwilling to bring a product to market unless they can sell millions of them. That's a disappointment, and a break from Steve Jobs who was always willing to test the waters. For example I would gladly pay lots of money for a decent home theater AVR, for which Apple has abundant development talent. They would crush the competition, whose offerings are quite frankly awful. But I know they'll never do it because an AVR is a high margin, low volume product. Unless it's high margin and high volume Apple isn't interested. That's too bad. It stifles innovation, but I suppose they think they're innovative enough.


Unfortunately the life cycle of companies is such that as they grow, they become increasingly reluctant to take on risk. Steve Jobs was willing to risk everything on the iPhone, and did. That will probably never happen again.


It's probably frustrating for an Apple engineer with a brilliant idea for a new product to have it squashed under some apparently arbitrary marketing goal, but they're free to go out on their own and make it happen. So what if they're not the next Big Thing.


Anyway however I got on this tangent the point is if you have a great idea for a feature or product suggestion, definitely send it to Apple via their Feedback portal. Just bear in mind that Apple will take all the credit and you will be a Nobody. Otherwise, go out on your own and make it happen. After all that's how Steve Jobs started this whole thing, because HP wasn't interested.


And yes, this user community is unmatched in the business. No other company comes close. It's Apple's best kept secret.

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Feb 22, 2025 4:52 AM in response to dmm153

This is old but I believe nothing has changed since then:


Location of user account / profile photo - Apple Community


You might try retrieving it from that Time Machine backup, if you discarded it years ago it might have been "thinned" by now.


As a secondary Q, any one know how I might keep spontaneous changes like this from happening in the future?


I don't know how it happens, but it happens. It is so infrequent that I have been unable to correlate it to anything in particular.


Edit: I just noticed Rudegar already linked that Discussion. Oops.

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Feb 26, 2025 10:33 AM in response to dmm153

I completely agree that we should not be forced to conform with what appears to be an arbitrary convention such as the example you illustrated.


Let my try to understand it though. If I start typing something in Safari's "smart search" field, this is what happens:



It starts to autocomplete, but if I press a Delete key at the point illustrated above, it removes only the blue portion. I admit I never gave that behavior the slightest thought, but I can certainly understand how you might want Safari to actually delete what you typed vs. deleting what Safari suggested and I agree that is a worthy Feedback suggestion.


Apple obsesses about tiny details. Perhaps this was a feature that was decided upon after days of heated debate, or maybe it was simply arbitrary and completely overlooked. Who knows.


Why must I be forced into a paradigm? I should be free to set my own environment.


I couldn't agree more, and for what it's worth I think Apple would agree with your sentiment as well... within the constraints of any multinational conglomerate subject to the whims of marketing and other seemingly impenetrable limitations. It seems to me yours is a suggestion that could easily be implemented, or (preferably) changed to make more logical sense. Perhaps most people wouldn't even notice the change. I doubt I would.


A suggestion regarding that Feedback or any other you might consider providing to Apple. For it to be considered you need to describe exactly what you are seeking, and the results you are expecting. For example if I press Delete at the point illustrated above, it will remove the blue autocomplete suggestion, but if your proposal is to remove the last letter you type (the letter t in the above example) how should the autocomplete feature behave? I don't have the answer to that question so it'll be up to you to provide one.

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Feb 21, 2025 3:02 PM in response to Rudegar

Hey Rudegar, thanks for the quick reply. Yes, turns out I know how to change that picture, but I was hoping to learn where in the system the MacOS saves the location (file name) of the picture it displays at login time, then I could use time machine to find my original file... and then I could restore it by these means in your suggestion. I have so many files, can't find this image by searching.

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Feb 23, 2025 4:51 PM in response to John Galt

Regarding "nefarious", agreed. I use the heck out of my Mac daily; Mail, iMessage, Safari, and office products. In my estimation, these tools (since Steve Jobs) have been forever on the verge of being world-class, but never quite able to make that final leap. Apple seems to be unresponsive to its customer's field bug reports. I stopped filing them. Not nefarious, probably just the way of the industry. I know all about the "if it's earning, don't mess with it", risk management mentality. If I'm wrong and simply don't know the right avenue of approach, please by all means enlighten me. For now, the user community is my go-to. Thanks.

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Feb 25, 2025 12:07 PM in response to John Galt

Very well written. I appreciate a carefully expressed opinion, and I have no argument. Regarding your point that taking a chance on innovation as Steve Jobs did with the iPhone not likely to happen again, yes, I feel that way as well. For anything like that in the future we're going to just have to wait for the next genius. My thing is more about the fine details and little bugs that slow me down, rather than breakthroughs. I'll give you an example; it's admittedly trivial, but important to me. The typing assistance in the Safari search field has redefined the "delete" key to be different than any other use in the industry. It deletes the remainder of its suggestion and leaves the letter the user typed. What I expect to happen is for it to backspace, remove the character I just typed, and await further instructions. I'm ok with the Safari developers trying to make the product more useable, but in this case I should have the option. When I don't like it, I should be able to turn it off. Why must I be forced into a paradigm? I should be free to set my own environment. I thought I put forth an excellent argument with a trivial and innocuous solution that should satisfy me without negatively impacting those who like that feature.


Regardless, thanks John Galt, I will continue to submit feedback.

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Feb 27, 2025 5:11 PM in response to John Galt

Cheers for that. It's good to have some validation. I know it's uncommon in the industry, but I'd be happy just to know where Apple stands on my feedback! e.g. "yes, we'll get to that but it's of low priority" or "no, your suggestion runs contrary to our direction and here's why...". Feedback on my feedback would be very cool. At least I'd learn something. I appreciate your feedback, John.

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MacOS changed my Login picture and I want my old one back.

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