How is my iPhone getting rooted without jailbreak?

Well, in my analytics, I have a lot of rooting going on and I was under the impression that iPhones couldn’t be rooted unless they had been jailbroke. Well, I’ve not been Jailbroke and I am getting rooted. So, there’s something weird going on. I know I haven’t been Jailbroke because I have avast security premium, and it says that I have no jailbreak. There’s no jailbreak in my phone at all. So, where’s the rooting coming from?



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Posted on May 4, 2025 9:28 PM

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Posted on May 4, 2025 9:56 PM

Your phone is not rooted. You simply do not understand the analytic data as it is not intended for user interpretations. The purpose of the analytics logs is for when they are requested by an Apple Engineer after a Support Ticket has been opened for an issue reported to Apple Support.


There are many words or phrases that will mean nothing to you, and root access as referred to in the analytics is the basic access permissions used for any UNIX based operating system. The underpinnings of iOS are based on UNIX that was developed in the 1970's. Don't be surprised when you come across the Pegasus.framework. No it does not mean your phone has pegasus spyware installed, it is an Apple Framework that has been part of iOS long before there was ever any such thing as Pegasus Spyware.


My recommendation is to get rid of Avast. It cannot scan your iPhone for any virus as there is no access to your file system. That is the same reason why there are no viruses that can be installed on any of the System files. In addition, do not bother with any of the Analytic Logs. If you have an issue with your phone, describe what that problem is here.

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May 4, 2025 9:56 PM in response to Prettyful1

Your phone is not rooted. You simply do not understand the analytic data as it is not intended for user interpretations. The purpose of the analytics logs is for when they are requested by an Apple Engineer after a Support Ticket has been opened for an issue reported to Apple Support.


There are many words or phrases that will mean nothing to you, and root access as referred to in the analytics is the basic access permissions used for any UNIX based operating system. The underpinnings of iOS are based on UNIX that was developed in the 1970's. Don't be surprised when you come across the Pegasus.framework. No it does not mean your phone has pegasus spyware installed, it is an Apple Framework that has been part of iOS long before there was ever any such thing as Pegasus Spyware.


My recommendation is to get rid of Avast. It cannot scan your iPhone for any virus as there is no access to your file system. That is the same reason why there are no viruses that can be installed on any of the System files. In addition, do not bother with any of the Analytic Logs. If you have an issue with your phone, describe what that problem is here.

May 4, 2025 9:44 PM in response to Prettyful1

What makes you think that your phone is "rooted" (i.e., that some malicious piece of software has taken control, at a deep and privileged level)?


It is much more likely that you are seeing something in analytics that you do not understand, and letting paranoia or misinformation from the Internet run away with you. Analytics are intended for developers and support people who have extensive technical training, experience, and access to information about a particular area; and even for those people, can be difficult and laborious to read.

May 7, 2025 6:36 AM in response to Prettyful1

Prettyful1 wrote:

Well, I’ll tell you why I’m rooted. I looked up and really dove deep into it all and looked up the phrases and the text that they were used in for developers and it told me exactly what it meant.

Your device is not rooted. Apparently what you did was copy/pasted analytics into ChatGPT/AI Service and that is where you are getting your information. That would be the worst thing you could do if you are actually looking for factual information. The problem you have run into is that the source of the data used to train the model comes from sources like Reddit. Google has a contract with Reddit to use their posts to train Gemini with those results also seen in Google Search. Reddit is the epicenter of conspiracy theories when it comes to these claims and the AI responses are just regurgitating this incorrect information.


What Developer's are telling you your device is rooted? I am a Developer myself with many apps in the App Store and I am telling you your device is not rooted. In all truth, being a Developer is actually irrelevant. I know I am not going to convince you otherwise and you will always believe what you want to believe, but you have provided proof of nothing and no one has remote access to your device.

May 6, 2025 10:33 PM in response to Mac Jim ID

Well, I’ll tell you why I’m rooted. I looked up and really dove deep into it all and looked up the phrases and the text that they were used in for developers and it told me exactly what it meant. I am rooted so I’m not just saying this because that’s what I think and I don’t know how to read it. I make sure what I’m reading is what it is. I don’t jump to conclusions or think it might be. I look it up The whole phrase exactly how it’s worded. In fact, I copy and paste it and it is in the developers‘s terms and it tells me like I said exactly what it means so that’s why I’m saying it not because I think I’m being listen to or someone’s watching me or anything like that. I like to know what’s going on with my phone since it’s going slow there’s things going on with it and I did some deep diving into it and that’s exactly what it is. I am rooted so don’t tell me that iPhones cannot be rooted because mine’s rooted and the developers say that’s what it means. So nothing you say to me is gonna make me change my mind. And don’t say that it’s not meant for us regular individuals to look at if it wasn’t meant for us to look at it wouldn’t be there. There’s just a lot of stuff that goes on that you guys want us to think that we don’t know what we’re doing or what we’re talking about this and that I get it from developers you’re gonna tell me the developers are wrong. And yes, you are right about that. I know how it is. I know that he can’t scan certain things and I have argued with them about that. I know they can’t so I do know what I’m talking about and I do know my way around things and I do know computers and I think I’m doing OK and I appreciate What you did say but you’re wrong.

May 6, 2025 11:40 PM in response to Prettyful1

Prettyful1 wrote:

Well, I’ll tell you why I’m rooted. I looked up and really dove deep into it all and looked up the phrases and the text that they were used in for developers and it told me exactly what it meant. I am rooted so I’m not just saying this because that’s what I think and I don’t know how to read it. I make sure what I’m reading is what it is. I don’t jump to conclusions or think it might be. I look it up The whole phrase exactly how it’s worded. In fact, I copy and paste it and it is in the developers‘s terms and it tells me like I said exactly what it means so that’s why I’m saying it not because I think I’m being listen to or someone’s watching me or anything like that. I like to know what’s going on with my phone since it’s going slow there’s things going on with it and I did some deep diving into it and that’s exactly what it is. I am rooted so don’t tell me that iPhones cannot be rooted because mine’s rooted and the developers say that’s what it means. So nothing you say to me is gonna make me change my mind. And don’t say that it’s not meant for us regular individuals to look at if it wasn’t meant for us to look at it wouldn’t be there. There’s just a lot of stuff that goes on that you guys want us to think that we don’t know what we’re doing or what we’re talking about this and that I get it from developers you’re gonna tell me the developers are wrong. And yes, you are right about that. I know how it is. I know that he can’t scan certain things and I have argued with them about that. I know they can’t so I do know what I’m talking about and I do know my way around things and I do know computers and I think I’m doing OK and I appreciate What you did say but you’re wrong.


Repeating over and over that you are "rooted" and that "nothing you say to me is gonna [sic] make me change my mind" is not going to convince anyone here.

May 7, 2025 6:50 AM in response to Prettyful1

Prettyful1 wrote:

Well, I’ll tell you why I’m rooted. I looked up and really dove deep into it all and looked up the phrases and the text that they were used in for developers and it told me exactly what it meant. I am rooted so I’m not just saying this because that’s what I think and I don’t know how to read it. I make sure what I’m reading is what it is. I don’t jump to conclusions or think it might be. I look it up The whole phrase exactly how it’s worded. In fact, I copy and paste it and it is in the developers‘s terms and it tells me like I said exactly what it means so that’s why I’m saying it not because I think I’m being listen to or someone’s watching me or anything like that. I like to know what’s going on with my phone since it’s going slow there’s things going on with it and I did some deep diving into it and that’s exactly what it is. I am rooted so don’t tell me that iPhones cannot be rooted because mine’s rooted and the developers say that’s what it means. So nothing you say to me is gonna make me change my mind. And don’t say that it’s not meant for us regular individuals to look at if it wasn’t meant for us to look at it wouldn’t be there. There’s just a lot of stuff that goes on that you guys want us to think that we don’t know what we’re doing or what we’re talking about this and that I get it from developers you’re gonna tell me the developers are wrong. And yes, you are right about that. I know how it is. I know that he can’t scan certain things and I have argued with them about that. I know they can’t so I do know what I’m talking about and I do know my way around things and I do know computers and I think I’m doing OK and I appreciate What you did say but you’re wrong.

Nope. Sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about. Stop poking around in things you don't understand. You can't read the analytics. You don't have the tools or the training required.


May 7, 2025 7:37 AM in response to IdrisSeabright

IdrisSeabright wrote:

And neither, it seems, do the LLMs.


They often generate wildly inaccurate answers for much less difficult questions.


If you were using one to try to detect "rooting", you'd want to run the output by one or more human experts and have them use it only as a suggestion of places to look, not as any sort of gospel.


The Guardian – Two US lawyers fined for submitting fake court citations from ChatGPT

May 7, 2025 9:00 AM in response to Servant of Cats

Servant of Cats wrote:


IdrisSeabright wrote:

And neither, it seems, do the LLMs.

They often generate wildly inaccurate answers for much less difficult questions.

I really only use them for assistance in editing documents I've already written (or at least outlined).

If you were using one to try to detect "rooting", you'd want to run the output by one or more human experts and have them use it only as a suggestion of places to look, not as any sort of gospel.

The Guardian – Two US lawyers fined for submitting fake court citations from ChatGPT

That has happened several times! If it weren't so sad, it would be really funny. Or maybe it's both.

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