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  • romad Level 3 Level 3 (590 points)
    Chris, I think that was tongue-in-cheek as the White album only has a total of 30 lines of songs and iTunes displays 48 lines of songs in List and Album List views. No scrolling required.
  • FirDerrig33 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    Personally, I like the vertical configuration of the buttons. Yes, it looks like it gives a little bit more space and leads me to believe that Apple might be updating their line of products to allow for a few of their products to have a retina display as well. If that's the case, then the slightly smaller buttons in a vertical configuration could be made even smaller and if that's applied to all application windows, I think it would look really nice.
    Does anyone know if there is a Terminal command to orient all buttons vertically? And does anyone know if there is a way to remove the title bar on app windows? Thanks in advance if anyone does.
  • Richard Wessels Level 2 Level 2 (240 points)
    Does anyone here think that maybe, just maybe, Apple can change the UI of their apps? I sincerely hope that this is a portent into the future of other apps. Namely Safari... This change would allow them to get rid of the title bar in Safari and implement a tabs on top option for the UI. This is something they had in the v4 beta but dropped at the last second. Now, Chrome and Firefox have it and IE 9 will as well. Leaving Safari looking old and dated.

    Maybe, just maybe, we will have to get used to our apps changing the way they look and function a little so that they do not end up looking old, dated, and dare I say it legacy based.

    I applaud Apple's attempts to change things up. Honestly the alignment of the buttons means very little to me. However, what it represents is maybe a way they can minimize the amount of wasted space at the top of the application window.

    And to some, namely those with smaller displays, or those that have vision deficiencies, every bit of screen real estate is important.

    Honestly if people can not take some change in their lives, they should not be on the Internet or using computers. The very nature of computer software and the Internet is change.
  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (77,960 points)
    Chris, I think that was tongue-in-cheek

    As was my response.

    But now with iTunes 10, when I view the White Album, the cover is all white.
    WHAT HAPPENED TO MY COLOR?!?!?
  • 73ragop Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    Well, I suppose if I were color blind, dyslexic, and an idiot ... the change might slow me down. But not as much as reading multiple pages of people debating the merits of the change does.
  • Meg St._Clair Level 8 Level 8 (46,230 points)
    Chris CA wrote:
    But now with iTunes 10, when I view the White Album, the cover is all white.
    WHAT HAPPENED TO MY COLOR?!?!?


    I seem to recall being taught in elementary school science that black was the absence of color but white was ALL colors. Therefore, you and your White Album are obviously responsible for this kissing color debacle! You have all the color!
  • Benguitar Level 2 Level 2 (260 points)
    Haha, There's a good way of putting it.
  • lancia Level 1 Level 1 (60 points)
    "Honestly if people can not take some change in their lives, they should not be on the Internet or using computers. The very nature of computer software and the Internet is change."

    Um, change is one thing. However, taking whatever some lazy person creates as "just chance" encourages people to put out crappy software we dont want.

    The 'stoplights', not including color in the icons, not including the "burn to a cd" button at the bottom of a playlist and not supporting Tiger OS. iTunes 10 is looking more like a lazy effort, not just 'change'.
  • Justin J. Rebbert Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Richard Wessels wrote:
    Does anyone here think that maybe, just maybe, Apple can change the UI of their apps? I sincerely hope that this is a portent into the future of other apps. Namely Safari... This change would allow them to get rid of the title bar in Safari and implement a tabs on top option for the UI. This is something they had in the v4 beta but dropped at the last second. Now, Chrome and Firefox have it and IE 9 will as well. Leaving Safari looking old and dated.

    Maybe, just maybe, we will have to get used to our apps changing the way they look and function a little so that they do not end up looking old, dated, and dare I say it legacy based.

    I applaud Apple's attempts to change things up. Honestly the alignment of the buttons means very little to me. However, what it represents is maybe a way they can minimize the amount of wasted space at the top of the application window.

    And to some, namely those with smaller displays, or those that have vision deficiencies, every bit of screen real estate is important.

    Honestly if people can not take some change in their lives, they should not be on the Internet or using computers. The very nature of computer software and the Internet is change.

    Sure, Apple can change the design of the UI. If they genuinely believe the change is for the good, and have user research to back that up, and most importantly, deploy the change on across the entire UI all at once, then that's fine with me. It's the inconsistency of just one single program being different from everything else that bothers me.

    I also don't see what the big deal with this "tabs on top" is. I like the tabs where they are in Safari 5, at the bottom of the menu area. They're closer to the webpage display area. They couldn't get any closer. That means I don't have to look as far to find the tabs, and I don't have to move the pointer as far to get to them. I don't get why you think Safari has to have something just because other browsers have it, and since when does anyone say an Apple product needs to have something just because a Microsoft product has it? It's Microsoft that copies Apple, remember? Maybe it's Chrome, Firefox, and Internet Explorer that need to move their tabs to the bottom of the menu area just like Safari.

    There's nothing wrong with leaving some an aspect of the UI alone if it works just fine the way it is. UIs should not be changed just for the sake of change, just to "so that they do not end up looking old, dated," etc. When something works well, people get used to the way it is, and any change from that is not well-tolerated, especially if there's no significant benefit to the change (as in this case).

    This change isn't going to do anything for those with vision deficiencies. And computer software designers are not in the habit of suddenly deciding to update their software to cater to those with hardware that's several years old, so I doubt that Apple did this just for those with smaller displays.

    As I said before, if Apple is changing the entire UI, then I would agree that it's something we'd all just have to get used to. I think a big change across the board would actually be easier to get used to than a change to just one single program, because when only one program is changed, we still have all the other programs continuing to reinforce our expectation of how things are supposed to be. But everything changing at once is a shock that jars our old expectations out of place to make room for learning something new. It's the inconsistency that's my biggest problem.
  • romad Level 3 Level 3 (590 points)
    "Chris, give me back my colors" (to paraphrase Augustus)
  • Judie Edwards Level 4 Level 4 (3,410 points)
    My goodness! All this flap over vertical vs horizontal buttons? We are 'Apple People'. We 'THINK DIFFERENT'! ;~D
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