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  • needsomeihelp Level 1 (95 points)
    I'm just so struck at how much more difficult and time consuming iTunes 10 is to use than the previous release. I cannot express to everyone I know using this application how much longer it takes me to navigate, it's that bad. It's all in the details as you tell us Apple and I am extremely disappointed that we have lost something we once had. An minor, yet so critical detail to us all. The functionality of adding color to an application significantly increases the user-friendly feeling and the intuitiveness that we all know and love from this innovative company! If you are reading this post, please change it back in the next update and continue to peruse your goals, customer satisfaction being #1.
  • Stormcrow51 Level 1 (0 points)
    An earlier post from fred1284 where he said:
    "The new icon looks like they got a graphic designer from Microsoft to design it. Definitely a step in the wrong direction"
    got me thinking.

    My personal opinion is that the new iTunes icon looks like it was designed by a child using one of those rubber-stamp kits you get from craft shops.

    By the way, I am a Windows user, and have admitted before that I'm probably in the wrong forum, but the conversation here about this topic is so much more lively than in any threads in the Windows forum ...

    Anyway, I've checked through quite a few of my Windows programs, and virtually all of them use at least some colour in the icons on the user interface window.

    Perhaps surprisingly, but perhaps not, the only one I've found so far that seems to have uniformly grey icons on a lighter background is ... Windows Media Player - right there in the side pane to view the library by Album, Artist, Songs, Genre, etc.

    The only splash of colour on the side-pane is a little orange star on the top of the "Create Playlist" icon.

    Rather curiously, though, there is colour in the icons when viewing "Video" or "Other Media" media-types in the library, but they're all grey for the "Music" view.

    So there you have it, it would seem that Apple have finally made iTunes look more like Windows Media Player.
  • Nathan Jones2 Level 1 (30 points)
    I concur that the grey look is pretty drab and indistinct. I noticed that even Steve Jobs, in the keynote struggled to figure out the buttons for a split second. Did anyone notice that?
  • mwheelerk Level 1 (5 points)
    It was pointed out on another forum that the new iTunes logo/icon is a knock off of an old logo/icon used by Columbia Records but one represents and 1/8th note and the other a 1/16th note. Even the colors are the same.
  • Jonathan Christensen Level 3 (760 points)
    mwheelerk wrote:
    It was pointed out on another forum that the new iTunes logo/icon is a knock off of an old logo/icon used by Columbia Records but one represents and 1/8th note and the other a 1/16th note. Even the colors are the same.

    Really? I just thought they grabbed it from istockphoto -in-6-colors.php
  • cliff Level 2 (285 points)
    Jonathan Christensen wrote:
    Really? I just thought they grabbed it from istockphoto

    Good catch Jonathan!
  • Nathan Jones2 Level 1 (30 points)
    There is something about that new logo and the grey buttons that look a little bit 'cheap' - like they were done as a first go with a Photoshop tutorial.

    The logo is a bit childlike, yet the musical note is somehow leaden (the thick legs perhaps) and it certainly isn't 'cool'.

    I'm typing this whilst waiting for the gapless playback to finish annoying me. I have no gapless albums, yet have to wait 7 or 8 minutes each time I open iTunes before I can actually play anything. Yes, I provided feedback and only updated in the hope there would be an 'off' option for this ridiculous feature. There appears no way to stop it - the 'x' button does nothing.

    And another thing…

    How do you switch off the automatic album covers? If there are more than 5 songs in an album, the artwork automatically shows.

    I don't and have never wanted this and it takes up a lot of space on a MacBook screen for a piece of artwork that is rarely even legible (and the info pane does this job just fine, thank you). The fact that the text is to the right and not underneath takes up about half the screen if left showing. It is ragged and ugly.

    How do you switch off this column? It seems to be the only one you can't switch off!

    I'm still waiting for gapless playback analysing to give me my computer back…
  • mwheelerk Level 1 (5 points)
    Well, in any case it certainly wasn't original.

    See post #3
  • Cea Level 1 (50 points)
    Hello Nathan,

    To your second question, I have answered this in an earlier post on this thread. Here's my reply:

    "While in iTunes, go to (the top menu bar and find) View, you will see a check mark by "As Album List". Select instead the one above it, simply entitled "As List". All that precious real estate is easily restored."

    Hope it helps.
  • Nathan Jones2 Level 1 (30 points)
    Thank you, that works. It seems unintuitive to have the album list there. 'Album list' doesn't actually mean anything when you think about it, but more importantly, it is not really a 'view', such as the grid or cover flow.

    iTunes 10 is proving rather rough around the edges with regard to design finish and unclear, or apparently incomplete navigation (in Ping).

    On colour again… iTunes 10 is definitely an ugly duckling. I've just noticed that the buttons make it look like a 'fake iTunes' Windows music player skin.

    That logo is really bugging me now, it is truly irritatingly ugly.
  • djanthonyw Level 1 (15 points)
    Apparently the person that worked on iTunes 10 also works for Google now.
  • mwheelerk Level 1 (5 points)
    That is funny!
  • Noriker Level 1 (0 points)
    I had a feeling that I shouldn't update, now I know why. How bout making colors an option?
  • davidderrick Level 1 (15 points)
    Michael Lowry wrote:
    Sekoya wrote:
    I think the real motivation behind this is to focus on the iTMS and Ping pages (which are [chock] full of colour), make what you can buy colourful and what you already own bland.

    I believe you hit the nail on the head, Sekoya. From Apple’s point of view, the iTunes/iOS ecosystem has reached a level of market penetration where the focus has shifted from improving the app to exploiting app’s presence on the desktop to sell more content.

    Since the introduction of the iTunes Music Store, Apple has made each release of iTunes more focused on directing users to stuff they can buy. Here’s just one example: If you click the little gray arrow to the right of an album name, you might expect iTunes to take you to that album in your own music library; but instead, it redirects you to the album in the iTunes Music Store.

    Here’s another example: the Ringtones button reappears periodically in bottom row of icons in the iOS iTunes app, and the Podcasts icon disappears. The user can change this, replacing the Ringtones icon with the Podcasts icon; but after a while, it will change back again. Again, this has the effect of directing you toward stuff you can buy (ringtones) instead of stuff that’s free (podcasts).

    And one last example: it is not possible to have iTunes save your password for free downloads only. If you want iTunes to save your password, simplifying the downloading of free apps, music tracks, and podcasts, then you must also have a valid credit card on file, and allow iTunes to save your password for purchases too.

    Apple’s engineers are well aware that bland, colorless portions of the UI are less likely to capture and hold the interest and attention of the user. This is by design.

    From recent updates to the iTunes app, we can infer the following design objectives:
    1. Reduce the user interface to its spartan, utilitarian minimum, and focus the user’s attention on the content area of the window;
    2. Lead the user quickly to purchasable or promotional content in the Store, and do this from as many places in the app as possible; and
    3. Make it as easy as possible to purchase content.

    Yet another way this is true is in the new habit iTunes has of asking you for your password randomly, early on in a session, before you have even shown an intention of buying anything, so you're ready to go and logged in for business.
  • Momo XD Level 1 (0 points)
    So wait.... Is there a way to get the colour back? I think I missed the answer to the question!
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