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lamp Level 1 (10 points)
Does iPod shuffle 4G have it?

My 2G iPod shuffle and iPod (nano) had a hold / lock features -- holding the center button to lock out control, and setting the hold switch respectively.

They are very handy when I put the iPod in the pocket while working out to avoid random track jumping when bump into things .
  • kiddredd Level 1 (5 points)
    My understanding is that it does not. See review at: I miss this feature, also. Maybe down the road they'll have an update to bring that back?
  • ninjordan Level 1 (0 points)
    I agree, its impossible for me to clip it on now without accidentally changing the song or pausing. I miss the little edge from the 2nd generation shuffle
  • pj91198 Level 1 (0 points)
    i hope a software update can bring this back!

    i didn't even think to check that it was gone! i went to put it on hold the same way the 2g worked and it would only pause!

    update please!
  • JackyK Level 1 (15 points)
    Yes, I'd like to request this feature too.

    It is really difficult to unclip and move the iPod Shuffle without accidentally pushing the buttons.
    This is a little bit annoying, because the song you are listening to will start again from the beginning.
  • boxhead201 Level 1 (0 points)
    I vote for it too. It is necessary because you have to press the clicker when doing the clip.
  • mrbillywhite Level 1 (0 points)
    I would love this feature, too. I accidentally click on buttons when walking up to desks and the like on far too many an occasion. And then there's using the clip...
  • jondbobuchowski Level 1 (0 points)
    The missing lock feature is a *real problem* for this device. I bought one last week and have decided to return mine. First of all, the the problems are threefold:

    1. Lock is a plain useful feature for listening to music/talk/etc. - without it, your attention constantly wanders to considering whether you're goinh to accidentally bump one of the controls

    2. Lock is especially useful for listening to audiobooks and podcasts (which I do on a regular basis); accidentally hitting skip track instantly results in a frustrating few minutes of fast-forwarding/rewinding to get back to where I was listening.

    3. As other posters have noted, the design change to narrow the iPod removes any holding leverage or good place to hold the iPod while using the clip. Holding with fingertips around the base of the headphone jack the is NOT a working solution, it's still very easy to accidentally click a button. In other words, the 4G's design needs the lock feature more than the 2G's design (which the 4G most closely resembles)

    Furthermore, this appears to be an oversight on Apple's part; when I first realized that a lock feature was not mentioned in any of the online support I spoke with Apple's technical support (who were very helpful and reviewed both the public as well as internal documentation in regards to this) - they couldn't find ANY mention of a lock feature in the documentation, and did not in any way question that I was surprised by the lack of this feature (which I would expect them to do were the feature deliberately removed).

    Support then put me in contact with an engineer who asked me further questions and verified what support had told me; he also agreed that this seemed like a missing feature, and suggested submitting feedback to Apple about this; perhaps if enough noise is made the feature will be restored (if possible) by a firmware update.

    Overall, the evidence seems (to me) to indicate that this is simply a glaring oversight, versus a case of Apple removing a feature in order to "streamline the experience".

    In any case it would be good for Apple to acknowledge the issue more generally. I strongly suggest that everyone who has bought one of these ipods should submit feedback to Apple about it at: .

    I'd have little problem (re-)buying a new 4G shuffle if this lock feature is addressed, but for the meantime I'll be returning my model (and noting the lock issues with the Apple Store manager), specifically due to the poor user experience I've had in the past week of usage.
  • mrbillywhite Level 1 (0 points)
    As the previous poster mentioned, this is a serious issue.

    Send feedback on the iPod shuffle in particular here:
  • MACPR70 Level 1 (0 points)
    I just purchased a 2G Shuffle and I am very disappointed by what seems like an obvious design flaw. NO LOCKING FEATURE? How could Apple have missed this? This is way too obvious to have been missed in the product design and/or testing. I will be returning the Shuffle tomorrow. I expected more for my money.
  • amyhughes Level 1 (25 points)
    I've accidentally skipped to the next track in a long podcast and that is really annoying. For clipping/unclipping, though, I just turn it off first. Picks up where I left off when I turn it on.

    I can't imagine how they'd add a lock through a software update, though.

    Message was edited by: amyhughes
  • tsheckler0 Level 1 (0 points)
    I am so irritated about this right now.

    This is the first Apple product I've bought, and it's probably going to be my last.

    I think it's pretty obvious that this deficiency was intentional to force people to upgrade to the next model. The same way they continue to intentionally leave obvious, key features out of the iPhone to force their sheep-like fanboys to upgrade whenever the opportunity presents itself.

    The 2nd generation hold feature could be added through a firmware update, but don't hold your breath.
  • calicalifornia Level 1 (0 points)
    Maybe someone can make a hard case that doesn't allow the buttons to be pushed, but the iPod could be taken out easily.
  • laundry bleach Level 5 (6,885 points)
    I believe this has been resolved with the latest software update for the iPod shuffle 4G - version 1.0.1. If you update it using iTunes, this feature should work.

    Best of luck.
  • snowymike Level 1 (0 points)
    Just updated (thanks for the notice), hold/lock works as before, with the addition of a nice little sound informing you of hold/lock being activated and deactivated. I like that addition; with the 2nd generation model I'd sometimes stop holding the button before hold had been activated. Not a concern anymore.
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