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  • tfxman Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Apple is developing an insidious habit of reducing functionality as they 'upgrade their software'. First the latest and greatest iPod (iTouch) can't even manage Smart Playlists. And now the pointless elimination of a well loved (and profitable) feature in iTunes. Is it possible they've hired a bunch of Windows programmers, or have they made a deal with the social networking sites that pays them big money to force Ping upon us. Apple is so busy selling its soul (can you say iPhone & AT&T three time fast?) that their long tradition of quality and customer oriented software is becoming nothing more than a memory. Maybe Steve Jobs should change his name to 'Bill'.
  • CVMax Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    ...they could also have the decency to put this on top of the "what's changed" list. I presume they intentionally did not do this which is really irritating. Had I known, I wouldn't have done the upgrade in the first place....
  • Claus Lund Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I have switch back to 10.0.0 again and Hello Genius sidebar - you have been missed. (Hint Apple)

    CVMax you just go into your programs folder in the finder and drag Itunes to the trash. Then you download Itunes 10.0.0 from the link that Sekoya provided, thank you - and install it the normal way. Remember to run it the first time from the program folder. I have had no problems so far with the switch back.

    And please Apple - reenable Genius sidebar in coming updates, Itunes have room for both, just make a little button, so you can switch between being in a shopping mood and social networking mood!
  • sh.t Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    It's up to you, Apple! If you do not want to sell matching music anymore, keep it like this. Amazon and 7digital are waiting.
  • onesix18 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Agreed! The genius bar needs to be restored! Why not make it an option of which bar to display....Ping vs. Genius?
  • CVMax Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    go into your programs folder in the finder and drag Itunes to the trash. Then you download Itunes 10.0.0 from the link that Sekoya provided, thank you - and install it the normal way.


    I tried that, trash and reinstall. The installer can't be started because the HD is "flagged" and a message comes up "...can't be installed. A newer version is already..." and this is after trashing the app. So there must be other files that need to be trashed as well to allow v10 to be installed....I also tried to copy the v10 app from backup but that results in a permission error....I might have to RTFM.....
  • guillaumedoudou Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I just downgraded back to 10.0.0 using the link that Sekoya provided, and Claus Lund explanations, thank you both; it worked well, but now Genius Recommendations are currently unavailable : I hope it won't be forever... -_-'
  • Claus Lund Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    CVMax - Did you by any chance forget to quit Itunes before trashing it?

    otherwise try follow apples uninstall document at

    http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1224
  • purrdee Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Please please please turn back on the genius sidebar.
    Ping is about as useful as a chocolate teaspoon as most of the music I buy is old classic rock where the bands have long ago disbanded. Genius may have had its critics but i found it useful in finding similar music or tracks i had not already bought. ok i can go 'show in itunes store' but this does not show me what i have not got or other suggestions like genius did.
    What i find really annoying is Apple's habit of just pulling features without consultation with the users.
  • Sekoya Level 2 Level 2 (225 points)
    CVMax wrote:
    I also tried to copy the v10 app from backup but that results in a permission error

    There aren't really any permission errors that cannot be worked around.
    A) What kind of backup are we talking about?
    B) How did you try to copy it from the backup?
    C) Can you copy any application (out of a backup of your applications folder) to ,let's say, your desktop?
    D) Can you copy the iTunes app to your Desktop?

    Or just extract iTunes 10.0 with Pacifist from the installer.
  • Loren Ryter Level 2 Level 2 (495 points)
    count me in for being disappointed with this change. i didn't often use the genius sidebar, but i did sometimes, and am much more likely to use that than a ping sidebar. why not just put in a toggle option?
  • CVMax Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    Sekoya wrote:
    CVMax wrote:
    I also tried to copy the v10 app from backup but that results in a permission error

    There aren't really any permission errors that cannot be worked around.
    A) What kind of backup are we talking about?
    B) How did you try to copy it from the backup?
    C) Can you copy any application (out of a backup of your applications folder) to ,let's say, your desktop?
    D) Can you copy the iTunes app to your Desktop?


    Sekoya, I have a SuperDuper backup and can just drag the app to my application folder, or the desktop. The problem starts when I do copy the app into the app folder then I get the permission message. Not sure why because I am the Administrator. Any ideas are appreciated....Thanks.
  • Sekoya Level 2 Level 2 (225 points)
    CVMax wrote:
    Sekoya, I have a SuperDuper backup and can just drag the app to my application folder, or the desktop. The problem starts when I do copy the app into the app folder then I get the permission message. Not sure why because I am the Administrator.

    Can you drag anything else (anything other than the iTunes.app) into your application folder?
    Normally the most you should get is a prompt to enter your admin password. You can either temporarily change the permissions on the Applications folder (and change them back later) or copy the .app as a superuser (either via the Terminal or by launching the Finder as a superuser via Pseudo).
  • CVMax Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    Sekoya wrote:
    CVMax wrote:
    Sekoya, I have a SuperDuper backup and can just drag the app to my application folder, or the desktop. The problem starts when I do copy the app into the app folder then I get the permission message. Not sure why because I am the Administrator.

    Can you drag anything else (anything other than the iTunes.app) into your application folder?


    Okay, got it done, logged in and out and just copied the v10 app from backup. Back to normal. Thanks a lot.....
  • Alf A'Lot Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    What an odd choice to disable a utility that encouraged me to listen to and buy music I don't have, and replace it with something that simply has me reading stuff about the people who make the music I already do have, assuming the artist is participating in Apple's facebook wanna-be program. Fail in functionality, business, and simple practicality. Reminds me of The Office a few years back, "I don't understand why a paper company needs to have social networking at all?"

    Thanks for the how to on downgrading to 10.0.0, I will be doing so right now and will definitely make sure I carefully read the features on any future updates before deciding to download!

    Message was edited by: Alf A'Lot
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