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David Crane1

Q: Do I need Final Cut Server?

Hi All,

For my video work, I have a Mac Pro 8 core with FCP 7, and an assistant I work with uses a 27" iMac and FCP 7. He opens projects on my computer and works with them over our gigabit network. AT the same time I open other projects and edit them. Seems to work well technically, but we do run into issues when we need to work on the same project at the same time. We are also shooting lots of general b-roll the we use in the projects, and the right clip can be tough to find sometimes.

While I think Final Cut Server can help with some of the organizational issues, I wonder can the Server machine also be a client? Basically I want all the functionality of the Final Cut server software, but I don't want to lose my Mac Pro as an editing machine. Do I need one dedicated server, and then two editing (client) machines?

Thanks!

Dave

Mac Pro 2 x2.26 Quad Core Xeon, Mac OS X (10.6.4)

Posted on Sep 29, 2010 11:03 AM

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  • by A. Richards,

    A. Richards A. Richards Sep 29, 2010 11:27 AM in response to David Crane1
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    Sep 29, 2010 11:27 AM in response to David Crane1
    Technically, you can run FCSvr on a FCP workstation. I wouldn't recommend it though. FCSvr does a lot of encoding tasks that are very processor intensive, and that would seriously compromise your ability to also use your Mac Pro as a workstation.

    Nothing lets two editors work on the same project file simultaneously. FCP just doesn't allow it.

    You could put FCSvr on your Mac Pro to play with it, learn it, and then migrate it to something more substantial if you like what you see. Before you spend any money though, I'd encourage you to read the documentation to gain a better understanding of what FCSvr does and doesn't do and how it works with FCP.
  • by John F. Whitehead,

    John F. Whitehead John F. Whitehead Sep 29, 2010 8:01 PM in response to A. Richards
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    Sep 29, 2010 8:01 PM in response to A. Richards
    It really depends on what your workflow is.

    If the content is loaded at the beginning of your project and you're not generating lots new footage once you've started, you may not be doing a lot of daily encoding, so it may not interfere much. Likewise, if you sit near each other and can coordinate work ("i have to render this - can i slow your machine down a bit?"), and you're ok with that, it may not be a big issue.

    Organizing your media is definitely a strength. The more you have and the more you'll be adding, the more it makes sense to have a dedicated machine.

    Your bigger bottleneck may be the use of the gigabit ethernet. Is the other person actually trying to edit over it, or do they copy it locally? FCSvr makes it easy to work off local cache files so that may be some of the justification as well.
  • by jtography,

    jtography jtography Nov 12, 2010 2:45 AM in response to John F. Whitehead
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    Nov 12, 2010 2:45 AM in response to John F. Whitehead
    I'm kind of confused. I appreciate final cut server has huge capabilities. Is it overkill for a 4-workstation setup though? We don't often work on the same project timelines (collaborate) but we sometimes would need to reference the same media. We will be running shared storage SAN and using MetaSAN (like Xsan) to protect data and manage the permissions. Do we also need final cut server? We honestly don't really want to change our workflow by putting inan assert manager as well, maybe one day.
  • by A. Richards,

    A. Richards A. Richards Nov 12, 2010 5:37 AM in response to jtography
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    Nov 12, 2010 5:37 AM in response to jtography
    FCSvr gives you an additional layer of project organization beyond the FCP project file. Productions in FCSvr can be used to gather project files and project media logically that might be spread all over your storage. You still can't work in the same project file at the same time, but all your media is organized separately from the Finder and you can reorganize it without unlinking your media.

    You don't need FCSvr in a shared setting, but it can help a lot.
  • by RicM,

    RicM RicM Nov 15, 2010 9:45 AM in response to David Crane1
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    Nov 15, 2010 9:45 AM in response to David Crane1
    I am very new to FCS but let me say it adds to your work in some very constructive ways. The organization and search functions alone make more B-roll available so I find myself using it more. I have been uploading lot's of stills as well as all rights stock footage and music we have purchased in the past. When it come time to add cutaways the search function will sometimes kick out footage and still images with corresponding keywords that I would never have thought of using. We are using 3 iMacs on Gigabit Ethernet and a Dual 2.8Gig Quad core Xenon Tower (that used to be my edit station) as the server. Checking out a large project the first time takes a few minutes, but if you have your cache on a large external HD and don't clear it, the proxies stay resident most of the time, so you are just checking out the FCP project and any new material added. I am pretty pleased with the performance overall.