Iphone 4

Is apple going to release a Newer Iphone 4 by this december where they had fix the antena problem or is going to be the same iphone 4 with the antena problem?

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Posted on Sep 29, 2010 5:52 PM

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Sep 29, 2010 5:56 PM in response to juanr

they are saying that only few phones had antenna problem and it is fixed already. You can test it out in the APPLE store whenever you have free time. I did the death grip and the phones were able to hold on to the reception.

The only problem is reception of the phone. I think it is less compared to other phones. it usually has 3-4 bars where other phones have full reception. I know for fact that when I call on a 2 or 1 bar the other party cannot hear me well so, it is an important factor.

To conclude the post, I am lost with all this reception, call quality and bars myself. The rest of the phone is spectacular no questions there.

Sep 29, 2010 8:18 PM in response to juanr

When you say "antenna problem" I am assuming you are referring to the same problem that:

- Steve Jobs publicly apologized for and made a commitment to work hard at resolving.

- Apple is and will continue by request to provide iPhone 4 users with a free case or bumper.

- Our dear friend Mark Papermaster is no longer helping Apple with iPhone development.

juanr, to directly answer your question I fear that Apple will not fix this problem until the next major upgrade. I chose to return my iPhone 4 and wait until they can fix the problem. Yes, there really is a problem and yes they will fix it. I am very sure this is one problem Apple will put great efforts into never repeating.

If you have the signal strength or use the bumper you will love iPhone 4.

Sep 29, 2010 9:28 PM in response to Tamara

lol, you serious? it's been determined that the iPhone 4's external antenna is indeed a hardware flaw. I guess I should have expected someone like you with 5 apple products in your signature to say that :rolleyes: the media didn't blow anything out of proportion, if anything they didn't blow it up enough to force apple to do something serious instead of cheap cases.

Sep 30, 2010 2:03 AM in response to juanr

I have had the Iphone 4 since July and am on orange in the UK. I travel all over the country and have no issues with reception or dropped calls. My partner and many friends all have IP4 and have no issues. Really the media have escalated this out of proportion from some users in poor reception areas.
I also have a blackberry from work and this drops calls regularly, this is on vodafone which has coverage all over. when you hold this in the so called death grip it drops bars???? you dont hear much in the media about this though.

Sep 30, 2010 8:15 AM in response to Tamara

sorry sir, but you dont have any radio-communication background, you probably dont even know how an antenna work, what a wavelength, how to calculate it, what the effect of Bridging antenna have on emmission/reception, and how it will modify the electromagnetic field surounding it.
hope your 23127 aint useless like this one.

take some read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antenna_(radio)

Stephane Bilodeau
Senior Technician Telus Mobility

Sep 30, 2010 12:05 PM in response to dreambill

First, Wikipedia is not an academic source. Sorry you never learned that in college.

Second, had it said "Ph.D. in Electromagnetics" at the end of your post, with a link to your field and publications of research, I would've taken your post seriously--but it didn't. 😉 Being a call center rep or cable monkey doesn't make you any more an expert than I, or anyone else on here.

Third, if you don't want the phone--don't buy one. The fact that people (such as yourself) take the time to pontificate on message boards says a lot more about your mental state than that of people who actually own an iPhone 4.

Sep 30, 2010 12:21 PM in response to xalexinchainsx

"the media didn't blow anything out of proportion, if anything they didn't blow it up enough to force apple to do something serious instead of cheap cases."

This is exactly correct. The only reason people are getting free cases is because of media coverage.

The fact that people are using the iPhone 4 with no problem and are using either a case or have enough signal strength does not negate the issue. You only need to give Apple Support a call to be given clarification of the defect. To Apples credit they are not side stepping the problem, relatively speaking.

The disappointments of the iPhone development team have been know for sometime. The iPhone 4 in most cases is the best phone out on the market. However, when you compare its ability to make calls with the 3G and 3GS, truly the iPhone 4 has lowered the performance bar.

The best thing that can come out of this situation is that the next major hardware change to the iPhone will most certainly kill this problem.

Sep 30, 2010 12:45 PM in response to Oso Grande

dont believe me? if you have friend in the radiocomm business, ask him.

lay your phone on the side, put a penny between the 2 antenna, and then look at your signal strengh going from 5 bar to 1, even no service.(cause bridging 2 antenna change the wavelength of those antenna)

also, the white iphone were ready, but apple send them back to the factory to put some nonconductive coating, in the same way they now manufacture the black one.

i really dont care seriously if you dont believe me.just remember. and see by yourself at the end of november.

Sep 30, 2010 12:57 PM in response to dreambill

It sounds like you're more upset that I (like many others) am not having a problem with the iPhone 4 antenna.

No-one has argued attenuation doesn't exist but you're arguing that I should be having a problem simply because you believe it so. Here's a post by an actual person proclaiming to be a Ph.D. in Electromagnetics and offers a rational explanation, not just conjecture--link below.

http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/city5/iphone4_sensitivity_to_fingers_explained_bya/

You need help. Look into a good psychologist and ask about the step-by-step program.

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