How do you turn it off?

Sometimes I wonder if those reading this forum speak the same language as me as they obviously have not understood what I have said. Maybe they just saw the title/subject and didn't bother to read the actual post. Can I please implore you all to actually read what has been asked.

I already indicated I understood there was a menu option, but that I was asking about direct IR commands that would enable a universal remote to turn it off. A suggestion to get a universal remote that can turn it off is not helpful on 2 counts. First, I obviously use a universal remote already and second, in order for it to work in this way, the new TV needs to implement a suitable command or commands, which is what I don't know and hence was asking here.

So, does the new 2G TV implement a discreet IR 'OFF' command or combination of button presses as did the old TV? If so, is it the same or otherwise if not, what is(are) the command(s)?

tgibbs wrote:
Otherwise, it will go into standby automatically if unused for a period of time (I haven't timed it).

However, tgibbs adds a new dimension here by saying it has a sleep/standby timeout of which I certainly was not aware and is new. I didn't see it mentioned in the blurb anywhere. Is this true? Can it be adjusted? Is it a true standby timeout or does it just turn the display off? Is there any information on this?

Yes, but the Universal remote manufacturers are up a gum tree if the TV itself doesn't support any such command. I believe the 1G didn't have this initially and it was introduced later and that may be the case for the new 2G. But before I actually have one in my hand to try, I was asking whether anyone could confirm if it does have such a facility. As I said, if it does not, then NO universal remote will be able to overcome that.

Perhaps someone who has a 2G already would try it out and confirm if it does turn to standby with the same IR command sequence (that I outlined above) as the 1G. That WOULD be helpful.

Actually, what would be most helpful is for Apple to realise the importance of implementing true ON and OFF discreet IR commands for any device such as this as it is of PARAMOUNT importance to using it with a universal remote and let's face it, Apple expect this device to be used in an environment that typically would be controlled by a universal remote. The solution they finally added to the 1G was a very poor implementation of this concept. It takes a long time for the commands to complete and often seems to fail completely even when the remote is held pointing in the correct direction until the command sequence is truly ended.

The actual IR commands can be in addition to those that the Apple Remote can generate as they would be specifically for those installations where Apple's remote would not be used. For heavens sake, TV and Hi Fi manufacturers for years have been including additional discreet codes not used by their respective remotes, just to allow good integration with a home cinema/HiFi system. It is very aggravating when Apple insists on being so obtuse like this.

a brody wrote:
As we are just end users here, until someone with such a remote comes along, we are stuck merely on heresay.

I think you are missing the point. This is a function of the TV and NOT the Universal remote. You can put the 1G to standby by pressing the Apple Remote buttons in the sequence I outlined above which avoids the need to use the menus which are basically impossible for a Universal remote to use as you would need to know the current state to know which commands are required. There needs to be a command or sequence of commands that put it in Standby mode, irrespective of what it was doing at the time, just like the Power toggle of a TV.

I would like to establish if the new 2G responds likewise to any direct IR commands - just from the Apple Remote. This has nothing to do with a Universal Remote. That comes later once I know that the new TV does have such a command. Anyone with a 2G can check this. I cannot as I don't yet have one.

Thanks for that. Indeed this may make the requirement for discreet IR commands to Standby irrelevant.

However, can I please confirm, does it put the TV into Standby, or just turn the display off? I guess the front light would indicate which it was.

Another question, how quick is it to come out of Standby?