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  • ckuan Level 7 Level 7 (24,580 points)

    Since you don't have an iPhone, why are you still here?

    Go somewhere else for your whinning. Like I have said I don't have your problems and I'm glad.

  • pamefs Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    As former IPhone users  who do serious work , IPhone let us down in a big way.  And its important that other users know why.  You are only one person out of many who will read this discussion.  Whether or not you have or don't have our problems doesn't matter.

  • Meg St._Clair Level 8 Level 8 (41,965 points)

    pamefs wrote:

     

    Fine, but the next time a scientist screws up his testing to see who killed your family memeber because he had to interrupt his work in order to check his Iphone for missed calls, maybe you will care then.

    I would like to think that a competent scientist would be concentrating on science while doing such important work and not checking his phone for missed calls.

  • ckuan Level 7 Level 7 (24,580 points)

    We heard that.

     

    I have also serious work too.

    Now, it's my turn:

    1.) I have Notifications on for my call and an Alert Style = Alert. (Won't go away until I dismiss it)

    2.) I have a fantastic custom ringtones for all my VIP.

    3.) The recent list have all the time information.

    4.) My carrier convert all missed calls into a Text messages,

    and the Text message will repeat 10 times at 2 minutes interval.

    5.) The Phone icon have balloon with missed call indicator as well.

     

    So where is my problem, you think I have?

     

    Message was edited by: ckuan

  • stevejobsfan0123 Level 8 Level 8 (37,195 points)

    You are only one person out of many who will read this discussion.

    And I'll be sure to keep a tally of how many people buy into this nonsense.

  • pamefs Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Go Ahead, start tallying at page 1 because that's where it starts.

     

    So, what's your count so far?

  • pamefs Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    He is a competent scientist, with 3 promotions and top forensic scientist with a Medical Examiner's office.  He is also a responsible and competent United States reservist and as a military commander he must keep in touch regarding his 32 reservists and his superiors regarding things that need immediate attention, not to mentionn the occasional call from wife regarding family.  He just spent 9 months in the Persian Gulf and the phone calls and preparation leading up to this were numerous.  People with important work need to know when they get calls.

  • pamefs Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Great notiification system.  Who is your carrier? and did you have to download apps?

  • ckuan Level 7 Level 7 (24,580 points)

    No, I don't need to download app for missed call text, it's part of my telco service.

    Ask your provider if they offer such service.

  • FrenchToast Level 3 Level 3 (645 points)

    Aren't we one tiny bit off-topic here? This thread started with people complaining (not whining, I would think) about the lack of a somewhat pulsing, visual indication that they had missed calls, texts, email, etc... I hear those of you who say, "Hey, if it don't suit your needs, just ditch it, mate!", and those who say, "Hey, how come a so-called high-tech company with $600+ shares and a long experience at making electronic gizmos didn't think of adding one tiny LED (no matter the color) to let me know I missed calls, texts, email, what have you?".

     

    The thing is, the iPhone being what it is (one sleek object), you can't add the missing little piece of hardware (the LED) that would correct this mishap. Other phones, such as the Samsung (oops!) Galaxy S2, don't have that LED either, but developpers have devised ways to make tiny symbols appear on-screen when the phone is asleep, to let you know you've missed calls, texts, er, you got the gist of it already.

     

    So basically, it's just a matter of letting app developers interact directly with the screen. One other way would be to devise an app that would detect the reminders iOS does include, and add an extra layer to them by making, say, one tiny white symbol dance across the screen, even when it's off.

     

    And that's just off the top of my head. And I'm not even an iOS developer.

  • ckuan Level 7 Level 7 (24,580 points)

    FrenchToast wrote:

     

    And that's just off the top of my head. And I'm not even an iOS developer.

    Yes, so you didn't know all 3rd party apps are Sandbox which prevent malicious software creating havoc and user needs to install anti-this and anti-that like you have in other platform. You didn't think of that too, I supposed?

     

    Use the Apple feedback, the reality at the moment are the options I've posted previously.

    When Apple created the iPhone in 2007, their aim was 10% of the market, so obviously the iPhone with all good intention was not meant for everyone.

     

    It's also known, Apple takes its time implementing features to create a great experience.

    Remember Cut and Paste? So who knows what they'll do next.

     

    BTW, this forum is for technical solutions for user from user not a "I don't this or that or I need this or that" opinion.

     

    Message was edited by: ckuan

  • FrenchToast Level 3 Level 3 (645 points)

    The applications being sandboxed isn't relevant to this discussion, because sandboxing them is Apple's decision, not a technical requirement of the iOS platform. I said I wasn't an iOS developer, but I do some development on other platforms (including OS X), and I know that once your code has been vetted by Apple, it can run on an iPhone only if you got a clear access at the SDK. The best (?) example is Opera Mini which, on iOS, must use Webkit as its rendering engine because Webkit is the **only** rendering engine Apple will allow on its mobile devices.

     

    I'm sure you're right when you say that Apple probably has a few tricks up their sleeve, and that future versions of the iPhone may well propose what we have been complaining about in this thread, but this feature (I insist) shouldn't only go hand-in-hand with new hardware; to the  contrary, it should be part of the OS, so that people don't have to buy a new $700 handset just to get one tiny LED pulsing when they've missed a call/email/text. This is why Android is gaining speed.

     

    As for this forum being for this, and not that, I disagree: this forum is about people explaining what problems they are encountering, and other people suggesting solutions or workaround measures. This forum is housed by Apple, and they are monitoring it every second of every day (I may be exagerating a bit, here). I'm sure some of the software architects have been giving this thread a look or two. As to what they'll do with us users' complaints, that's a different matter.

  • ckuan Level 7 Level 7 (24,580 points)

    FrenchToast wrote:

     

    The applications being sandboxed isn't relevant to this discussion, because sandboxing them is Apple's decision, not a technical requirement of the iOS platform. I said I wasn't an iOS developer, but I do some development on other platforms (including OS X), and I know that once your code has been vetted by Apple, it can run on an iPhone only if you got a clear access at the SDK. The best (?) example is Opera Mini which, on iOS, must use Webkit as its rendering engine because Webkit is the **only** rendering engine Apple will allow on its mobile devices.

    Yes it is, since your last post suggesting "developers have devised ways to make tiny symbols appear on-screen when the phone is asleep" now this is why I've said SANDBOX which also mean they are not allowed to mess around with the core functions. One more time, it's about security. And Yes, it's a technical requirement to have a stable OS.

    Every developer has full access to the SDK if they signed in and paid their yearly fees that doesn't meant they can play out of that sandbox.

     

     

    I'm sure you're right when you say that Apple probably has a few tricks up their sleeve, and that future versions of the iPhone may well propose what we have been complaining about in this thread, but this feature (I insist) shouldn't only go hand-in-hand with new hardware; to the  contrary, it should be part of the OS, so that people don't have to buy a new $700 handset just to get one tiny LED pulsing when they've missed a call/email/text. This is why Android is gaining speed.

     

    Nobody is forced to buy anything from Apple. I don't think Apple care whether Android is gaining speed or not.

    I also just don't see any Android maker have more market share than Apple individually.

     

     

    As for this forum being for this, and not that, I disagree: this forum is about people explaining what problems they are encountering, and other people suggesting solutions or workaround measures. This forum is housed by Apple, and they are monitoring it every second of every day (I may be exagerating a bit, here). I'm sure some of the software architects have been giving this thread a look or two. As to what they'll do with us users' complaints, that's a different matter.

    It doesn't matter if you disagree. This is the T.O.U.

    If it's a technical problem then by all means but not for missing feature which nobody here can do anything about it. For that you have the Apple feedback page.

     

    Some forum users just don't get it. We are just Apple user who give our time to help fellow user. We don't have to put up with any insulting/whining/etc.

  • pamefs Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank you French Toast for being a voice of reason here in this discussion.  I would also like to note that I have visited the Apple Feedback page with this issue.  On this Apple site there are several discussions devoted to many technical issues, that some of us has weighed in about the lack of an indicator for missed calls is not hurting anyone.  If any of the participants don't want to comment on this discussion they don't have to.  But 7 pages on this topic is something that allows participants to perhaps accept why Apple hasn't included this feature and to learn about what technical adjustments should be made if Apple chooses to address the lack of this feature in the future.

     

    I, like may other Apple users, bought the IPhone and had to discover after I bought it that it didn't have this feature.  To be perfectly honest, I never in my wildest dreams, imagined that the IPhone would not have this feature, as it was noted earlier in this discussion that $10 phones have missed calls notifications.  It is very time consuming to visit all the forums, to try and find out if there is any way around this problem, then have to return the phone, and spend hours on the internet looking for another one.  Now, I specifically ask if new phones I am considering have this feature.  

     

    I will concede that the IPhone is not for everyone.  Unfortunately, like so may others, the hype surrounding the introduction of such a superior phone drew us in only to find out that such a basic feature was lacking.  To be honest, we feel kind of burned, but we are wiser now and will not make this mistake again.

  • ckuan Level 7 Level 7 (24,580 points)

    Amen.

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