DDP Master and CD Text.

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DDP Master and CD Text.

Hi all.
I'm a Mastering Sound designer and i try waveburner for my final project. I used Sonic Soundblade, but this last is very unstable on mac intel.
For the moment, two question for Waveburner.

In sonic solution, when we burn the master, the soft create a DDP image, and burn this one after. With this solution, we can be sure that the Audio Disc is exaclty the copy of the DDP file (that i send to the factory)
Within Waveburner, it's not possible. The Audio Disc is burn from the project.
It's a real problem. We cannot know if the DDP send to the factory is realy good.
I search a solution...

Secondly, we can disable the CD text information for burn a disc. Good. But can we disable too for the DDP export ? I don't see see this option anywhere ?
The factory where i send the DDP cannot burn the disc with this information. (often, it's just "audio track1, 2 etc...", imagine 50.000 commercial disc with this information...)

So, i hope that we can find a solution.
Did you know if the DDP import is soon possible within a future update ?

Thx a lot.

MacPRO, Mac OS X (10.6.4)

Posted on Oct 11, 2010 4:10 AM

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Answer 1

Dec 3, 2010 10:32 PM in response to Slaan

Hi Slaan,

I have been working on something similar but not exactly the same. Basically I wanted Waveburner to create a Cue/Bin File that I could work with in other software, (a CD duplication machine).

Apple has adopted DDP as a means of production archiving, distributing Audio data etc. as a format looking into the future. (And unfortunately there is only a hand full of software that are able to use DDP images).

My solution is to use a Virtual CD Drive. You can download a trial at: http://www.burningthumb.com/virtualcdrw.html

What this will allow you to do is export the complete CD as a Cue/Bin Image- simply by clicking BURN project and selecting the VIRTUAL CD drive. The software will then Burn a Bin/Cue virtual disk. Now you can then open this image with a program called WAVE EDITOR: http://www.audiofile-engineering.com/waveeditor/

Wave Editor will allow you to see the Cue/Bin as a CD timeline, (similar to Waveburner), yet it will also allow you to save the project as a DDP, and burn a CD at the same time.

This way you can be completely sure of what you are sending to the replication house, (and also make sure that there are no CD TEXT either...)

Not only that- but by burning the project as a virtual cd you are incurring no possible errors.

Let me know if you think that this workflow could work for you?

As for DDP import, I don't know if that is something that is on the drawing board, there are other things that Apple is working on in the Audio department, I would say Logic is probably the one that is getting the most attention. This trend is also occurring on the DVD side, where DVD Studio Pro is taking a back seat to Final Cut Pro.

However- as far as I am concerned Waveburner is a fantastic mastering application, and I am sure it will evolve as audio distribution evolves as well, (most probably some sort of iTunes integration I would say).

(PS: Wave Edit from Audiofile engineering is very stable, plus this approach separates the steps in producing the DDP thus allowing you to be sure that everything is working well, with out staying the the same software the whole way though)

Regards

Alex

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Answer 2

Jan 11, 2011 1:30 PM in response to Alcomposer

One year ago I know Magix Sequoia (wich is a widespread mastering tool in Europe) could not open a DDP from Wave Editor properly. There was a offset between audio and track times.

So I was a bit worried about how correct Wave Editor DDP-sets were at the time.

Anyone knows if this is okay by now?

Message was edited by: torsig1967

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Answer 3

Jan 13, 2011 6:23 AM in response to torsig1967

I'm also finding issues with the CD-Text created in a Waveburner DDP session. When I open that DDP in Sonic's DDP Player, the CD-Text is blank. So I really don't know if my DDP's created by Waveburner are actually making good CD-Text files. I have to then pull my DDP into SoundBlade and re-insert the Text Data, and then create yet again another DDP file set.

C'mon Apple. Do you want Waveburner to be a top pro piece of software or don't you?? It's so incredibly close, but not perfect yet. As of - Jan 13, 2011.

Brad

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