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d33t33 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
What is the process to uninstall/remove the Mac FaceTime Beta?

The installer package doesn't seem to offer an uninstall, and deleting the FaceTime app bundle doesn't do it either. There is a process tied to the FT bundle too (apsd-ft?).

Mac OS X (10.6.4)
  • 1. Re: Uninstall FaceTime Mac Beta
    sig Level 8 Level 8 (35,770 points)
    Drag the app to the trash.
  • 2. Re: Uninstall FaceTime Mac Beta
    d33t33 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    As mentioned in my original post, that doesn't work since there seems to be an active process continually running for FaceTime.
  • 3. Re: Uninstall FaceTime Mac Beta
    d33t33 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    And ... since FaceTime isn't installed by dragging the app bundle into the Applications folder but has an install package, I am sure there are other files outside the FaceTime app folder and Application Support folder that get created or updated. I would want to delete or update those files as necessary as part of removing FaceTime.
  • 4. Re: Uninstall FaceTime Mac Beta
    erugalatha Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)
    I would also like to know how to completely remove FaceTime including the process apsd-ft.
  • 5. Re: Uninstall FaceTime Mac Beta
    kmillecam Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I figured it out.

    First, open the FaceTime app and log out.
    Then drag FaceTime.app into the trash.
    Restart your computer.
    Empty Trash.
  • 6. Re: Uninstall FaceTime Mac Beta
    d33t33 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I found this link for "deactivating" FaceTime by signing out (http://gizmodo.com/5669074/how-to-turn-off-facetime-on-your-mac)

    This also removes the apsd-ft process.
  • 7. Re: Uninstall FaceTime Mac Beta
    d33t33 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    That process didn't work for me. I signed out of FaceTime, rebooted, and after rebooting it still says "operation can't be completed because FaceTime is in use" when I try to empty the trash.

    I just did a reinstall of FaceTime while running fs_usage piped to a file ... so I will look through that resultant file to see which files it touches (but it a LARGE file!).
  • 8. Re: Uninstall FaceTime Mac Beta
    d33t33 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I found two addition files I had to delete:

    /private/var/db/receipts
    com.apple.pkg.FaceTime.bom
    com.apple.pkg.FaceTime.plist

    After deleting those files, I rebooted and was successfully able to empty the trash containing the FaceTime app bundle.
  • 9. Re: Uninstall FaceTime Mac Beta
    Fischmuetze Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    FaceTime comes with two resident running services but both are placed in the FaceTime.app
    /Applications/FaceTime.app/Contents/PrivateFrameworks/IMCore.framework/imagent.a pp/Contents/MacOS/imagent
    /Applications/FaceTime.app/Contents/Frameworks/ApplePushService.framework/apsd-f t

    To remove complete the App open a Terminal and type in:
    sudo rm -rf /Applications/FaceTime.app
    rm /Users/[YOURUSERNAME]/Library/Preferences/com.apple.FaceTime.plist
    rm -rf /Users/[YOURUSERNAME]/Library/Caches/com.apple.FaceTime

    That's all ... otherwise TrashMe will do the job for you as too
    Restart your lovely Mac... done
  • 10. Re: Uninstall FaceTime Mac Beta
    d33t33 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Yep .. forgot to list those two as well (/Users/YOURUSERNAME/Library/Preferences/com.apple.FaceTime.plist & /Users/YOURUSERNAME/Library/Caches/com.apple.FaceTime dir).

    I think this question is answered!
  • 11. Re: Uninstall FaceTime Mac Beta
    Christopher Graham5 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    Also found these:

    /Users/<username>/Library/LaunchAgents:
    com.apple.FTMonitor.plist
    com.apple.apsd-ft.plist
    com.apple.imagent.plist
    com.apple.marcoagent.plist
  • 12. Re: Uninstall FaceTime Mac Beta
    d33t33 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Thanks Christopher!
  • 13. apsd-ft phones home and tracks you down
    D.R.C. Level 1 Level 1 (145 points)
    For those interested in such things, the apsd-ft process phones home to an Apple server whenever your Mac gets a new IP address on its LAN interface. Thus, Apple is probably collecting your WAN IP address as you and your laptop moves from place to place. (they need to know your IP address so they can initiate a FaceTime call to your Mac).

    If they're clever, they will also collect the SSIDs and MAC addresses of all the WiFi access points visible to your Mac (if you have wireless). In conjunction with Skyhook, or their own geo-location database, they'll know where you are whenever your FaceTime-equipped Mac is turned on.

    In the hour since installing FT, I've seen connections from apsd-ft to:
    34-courier.push.apple.com
    24.courier-push-apple.com.akadns.net
    28-courier.push.apple.com
    13-courier.push.apple.com
    47-courier.push.apple.com
    29-courier.push.apple.com
    and several more.
  • 14. Re: apsd-ft phones home and tracks you down
    weisen Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    D.R.C. wrote:
    For those interested in such things, the apsd-ft process phones home to an Apple server whenever your Mac gets a new IP address on its LAN interface. Thus, Apple is probably collecting your WAN IP address as you and your laptop moves from place to place. (they need to know your IP address so they can initiate a FaceTime call to your Mac).


    Just to be clear, having your WAN IP address would not, in most real-world situations, get an outside server directly back to you. The system has to leave the apsd-ft connection open.

    If they're clever, they will also collect the SSIDs and MAC addresses of all the WiFi access points visible to your Mac (if you have wireless). In conjunction with Skyhook, or their own geo-location database, they'll know where you are whenever your FaceTime-equipped Mac is turned on.


    Isn't this already done by CoreLocation on Macs with or without FaceTime installed? I'm not sure what privacy controls are included for CoreLocation, but "locationd" on my MacBook Pro under SL talks out all the time. I don't think that there's a FaceTime specific privacy issue here above and beyond the ones already in OS/X.
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