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Time Capsule WDS?

I would like to make a WDS with my 2TB Time Capsule and two Airport extremes. When I go into Airport Utility -- there is no WDS tab as stated in postings and in Apple Technical papers. What am I doing wrong? Can someone help me do this?

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Time Capsule 2TB, Mac OS X (10.6.4)

Posted on Oct 23, 2010 9:13 AM

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Posted on Oct 23, 2010 9:21 AM

Welcome to the discussion area!

Are the two AirPort Extremes older, round versions? Or, did you mean you have two AirPort Express devices.

If all of your devices are newer "n" versions, you an use Apple's "extend a wireless network" setup. Post back for more details.

WDS will cause a HUGE performance drop on your network, so you would not want to use this unless you have a mix of older "b/g" devices and newer "n" devices.

WDS will drop everything down to "g" wireless, so you lose any benefit of the faster "n" speeds on your Time Capsule. In addition with 2 remote devices in the WDS, you will lose half of your bandwidth with one device and half again with the next. In effect, you will have a "g" wireless network operating at only 25% of its capability.

For this reason, Apple "hides" the WDS setting on newer devices to discourage users from using it. If you must...

Open AirPort Utility - Click Manual Setup
Click the Wireless tab below the icons
Hold down the option key on your Mac as you click on the Wireless Mode selection box and WDS will appear.
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Oct 23, 2010 9:21 AM in response to joedive12

Welcome to the discussion area!

Are the two AirPort Extremes older, round versions? Or, did you mean you have two AirPort Express devices.

If all of your devices are newer "n" versions, you an use Apple's "extend a wireless network" setup. Post back for more details.

WDS will cause a HUGE performance drop on your network, so you would not want to use this unless you have a mix of older "b/g" devices and newer "n" devices.

WDS will drop everything down to "g" wireless, so you lose any benefit of the faster "n" speeds on your Time Capsule. In addition with 2 remote devices in the WDS, you will lose half of your bandwidth with one device and half again with the next. In effect, you will have a "g" wireless network operating at only 25% of its capability.

For this reason, Apple "hides" the WDS setting on newer devices to discourage users from using it. If you must...

Open AirPort Utility - Click Manual Setup
Click the Wireless tab below the icons
Hold down the option key on your Mac as you click on the Wireless Mode selection box and WDS will appear.

Oct 23, 2010 10:14 AM in response to Bob Timmons

Thanks -- all the devices are "n" and are newer. What I really want to do is extend my wireless capability throughout my house. I have the time capsule in the attic at one end of he house. So naturally there is a blank area on the other end of the house with the "n" network. Also the basement gets no coverage at all.

No, I can't move the Time Capsule from where it is. I thought that if I used WDS I would lose some bandwidth to sync functions, but would keep most of the "n" rate for data transfer. Short of drilling holes and running CAT 5 from the attic, what are my options.

If I where to drop a CAT 5 into a router then into the Air port Express could I then achieve a WAP (Wireless Access Point)

Thanks

Oct 23, 2010 10:40 AM in response to joedive12

I thought that if I used WDS I would lose some bandwidth to sync functions, but would keep most of the "n" rate for data transfer.


Unfortunately, WDS only operates on "g" wireless, so your entire network will drop to "g" levels. As I mentioned, the bandwidth loss will be tremendous in a WDS setup. Think of it this way:

"G" wireless is capable of 54 Mbps. But, you'll lose 75% of this bandwidth on the entire network if you use WDS, so the end result will be a network with about 13 Mbps capability. Any data transfers (and Time Machine backups) are going to be incredibly slow using wireless. Regular "n" is around 130 Mbps by contrast.

Short of drilling holes and running CAT 5 from the attic, what are my options.


Ethernet is always the best way to connect devices, especially if you are setting up wireless access points, so I would first investigate the feasibility of running the cable. This is the way commercial networks are designed and it provides the best bandwidth preservation and speeds on the network.

If you can't run the ethernet cable(s), take a look at a pair of ethernet powerline adapters to accomplish the same task be sending the ethernet signal over the AC wiring in your home. They work great. Faster and far more reliable than wireless.

The best performing network would have ethernet connections going to both AirPort Extremes. You could do this by simply adding a third etherent powerline adapter.

Or, run ethernet to an AirPort Extreme that is centrally located and then set that device up to allow itself to be extended and then setup the third Extreme to "extend a wireless network". The "extend" setup preserves "n" speeds on your network. You'll have 10 times faster speeds than a WDS setup.

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