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Negotiated Link Speed only 1.5Gbps for 256GB SSD on 15" mid-2009 MBP?

I just installed a new Crucial C300 256GB SSD in my mid-'09 MacBook Pro (2.66GHz Core 2 Duo w/ 4GB RAM). I didn't have any issues with the install but I did notice that the negotiated link speed shown in System Profiler for the drive (under Hardware - Serial ATA) is only 1.5Gbps when 3Gbps is possible and the SSD supports 6Gbps transfers.

Here's what's really weird -- if I reset the computer's SMC, the correct negotiated link speed of 3Gbps shows up after booting...until I reboot the computer at which point it drops back down to 1.5Gbps. What the heck is going on here? How do I get the SMC to "stick" so the drive doesn't slow down after a reboot?

FWIW I'm running EFI version 1.7 so SATA-II speeds should be possible. I have read about the issues that some are having with mid-'09 MBPs and non-stock hard drives so I suppose this might be related...

Thanks in advance for any pointers!

15" mid-2009 2.66GHz C2D MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.4)

Posted on Oct 24, 2010 2:41 AM

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Feb 9, 2011 6:25 PM in response to Schwa72

Hey Schwa72 --Did you ever get this sorted? Would love an update if anyone has any further information as I'm thinking of replacing the internal drive with a SSD on my new machine: mid2010 2.8Ghz Macbook Pro. I'm shooting for startup and application launch speed boosts.

What I'm trying to figure is if the Negotiated Link Speed is capped at 1.5Gbps is there any advantage in waiting for the new generation 3 Sand Force SF-2000 drives? Is it better to have 6Gbps transfer if only 1.5Gbps transfers are supported on S-ATA? Are there advantages over current generation 2 SSDs?

Thanks in advance for any guidance!!

Mar 17, 2011 3:18 PM in response to Toocool4

Same thing happens to me.
I have a Macbook Pro 2.93 GhZ Core2Duo early 2009 with a Optidrive-replacement Crucial C300 SSD.
Link speed available is 3 Gigabit, but it only gives me negotiated link speed of 1.5 Gigabit.
Crucial tells me it's Apple fault, since it works on WIndows machines... Please Apple, do a Firmware-Upgrade to enable 3 Gigabit on every macbook pro!

May 22, 2011 5:37 AM in response to Konstantinos Kafritsas

Same problem with my Mac Pro. I have four 500gig SATA II HDDs in a RAID 0. All rated for 3Gbs. Negotiated Link Speed is 1.5 when it should be 3.0. Only once have I seen them connect at 3.0 speeds. Sometimes 2 of the drives will connect at 3.0 speeds but not the other two. I need to see if this is HDD related or SATA port related.


Be nice if there were a EFI update or something to fix the issue. Considering how many users are affected. When all HDD do connect at 3.0 speeds I love the speed bost I get. With Apples Software RAID I was Geting close 200MBs in speeds based on ATTO. This is my main working RAID. I am using the two other ports located behind the fan for additional drives. So I have 6 drives in my tower. And I hve tried various configuartions to get things to work.


It is possible that my HDDs firmware may need to be upated. I have read that some of the Samsung drives have issues in RAID.

May 25, 2011 10:39 AM in response to Schwa72

Ok, so after a bit more research...


The EFI 1.8 Firmware update added a new field showing "negotiated link speed", which it did not display before. However it was always running at SATA 1. The reason being, is that Nvidia SATA chipset was running terrible with SATA II, with people reporting beachballs galore, so apple decided to reduce the firmware to SATA I, since that runs at 150MB/s, and the HDD's wouldn't run at that speed anyway, even the Apple supplied SSD's.


So the general consensus is that all HDD's supplied by Apple are firmwared at SATA I.


So it seems that this problem which repeats itself with Apple when the SATA interface upgrades. Since these problems have been going on since 2008 with SATA II.


However, what is also surprising, is that the latest Early 2011 17" is reporting SATA issues. This occurs & is noticable when a SATA III SSD is installed, but it happens on random machines. Some work, others don't. They seem to now have SATA II down pat, but SATA III now having the issues. And the DVD SATA cable is locked on SATA II.


And what's further, is that Apple have now released the new iMac, with a CUSTOM SATA cable, so there is no user replacing on those going on as far as I know. I'm sure there will be updates on this in the coming weeks.

Jul 2, 2011 9:25 AM in response to AussieDJ

So what you are using basically is:


Forget SATAII on your late 2008 Macbook with MCP97 Nvidia Chipsets, right?


When I boot the system with the Install DVD my Vertex 3 on my late 2008 Macbook shows 3 Gigabit and no "negotiated speed" entry.


So I guess it could work, we would have to figure out which EFI Firmware Update introduced the throttle?


Any idea how to revert an EFI Firmware Update?

Jul 2, 2011 4:31 PM in response to No Problem

Yes, this may be specific to mid 2009 macbook pros (mine has MCP79). If I recall, EFI 1.7 was supposed to enable 3.0 gbps but this does not seem to be the case. It could also just be specific to certain SSDs like mine although the crucial m4 supports SATA 3. Oh well, to be honest, the difference between 1.5 vs 3.0 gbps probably isn't noticeable in real-world day-to-day performance unless you're constantly transferring very large files and I'm happy that the drive is completely stable so far.

Jul 24, 2011 12:52 PM in response to Schwa72

Hi Folks,

I have exactly the same problem: MBP 5,3 (Mid 2009, 15'', 2.66) and SSD Crucial M4 128GB Firmware 0002 - running MacOSX 10.7.


- Sometimes it negotiates 3GB, mostly 1,5...

- It has nothing to do with TRIM support, which I have enabled.

- I have the "feeling", that when you clear the kernel caches (which you need to do to enable TRIM support), next time it connects 3GB with a higher probability.


-> My solution is to avoid shutdown of the system (using hibernation mode). Not really statisfying.


But: 3 GB/s is noticable faster than 1,5 GB/s! Benchmarking shows that the data transfer is exactly doubled.

Negotiated Link Speed only 1.5Gbps for 256GB SSD on 15" mid-2009 MBP?

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