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2 x "helpful" is not enough

Something that could do with a change: in my opinion I should be able to mark an unlimited number of posts as helpful, especially if they are.

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Posted on Oct 30, 2010 10:47 AM

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Oct 30, 2010 11:32 AM in response to Redarm

It's a great idea, but it was tried before, when people could click on "like" or "dislike" bars in replies (the terms like and dislike may not be exact, but you get the idea). Up to 20 points could be awarded by anyone, not just the original poster. They system was gamed by many and the current system was adopted. Even this system is gamed by people who use different aliases and answer their own questions and award their alternate alias points.

I agree it would be nice to have more stars to award and sometimes it's really difficult to choose, but for the time being, this is the best Apple can come up with and it works pretty well.






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Oct 30, 2010 11:55 AM in response to babowa

Oh, I am deadly serious, there was a case a couple of months ago of a person with several aliases who kept posting marshmallow questions and then awarding points to another poster who answered them consistently. Eventually, they were reported to the Hosts who determined the different aliases belonged to the same person and s/he was banned.

The ToU can be flouted. You and I agree to abide by them, but others are not as honest.





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Oct 30, 2010 3:46 PM in response to Redarm

The current system seems to have the best balance, i.e. the total helpful points equals the solved points. Any difference and you could have the solved poster receiving less than a helpful poster, or the solved poster getting a lot of points out of proportion. And as previously mentioned, I can easily see how an imbalance like this would be ripe for gaming.

Oct 30, 2010 8:13 PM in response to Redarm

I think we may have drifted from the intent of the original poster, but
this is an interesting point. To respond to Tuttle and Miriam -- the TOU states:

+Do not ‘game’ the system.+
+You agree to not create multiple IDs or otherwise manipulate the points system.+

I think "multiple ID's" could mean aliases.

At any rate, should someone decide to try to game the system, the regular helpers
here are very quick to pick that up, and report it in lightening speed.

However, getting back to Redarm's point --
A great majority of the posters here are asking questions, or trying to give helpful responses.
It's a great place.

Redarm -- You could (and did, in this case) state that you got many helpful responses.
That makes everyone feel good about your being helped. Everyone wins, really.
🙂

Oct 31, 2010 7:01 AM in response to babowa

One ID = one account, yes, and

• using multiple accounts to manipulate the points system at Apple Discussions is against the rules, but

• there are many reasons an Apple customer might have multiple accounts (Apple IDs), and

• having multiple accounts (Apple IDs) that aren't used to game the points system at Apple Discussions isn't against the rules.

2 x "helpful" is not enough

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