13 Replies Latest reply: Nov 5, 2010 8:27 PM by rkaufmann87
Benprio Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
Hi-- I'm a new owner of an iMac and I'm learning my way around the computer. I have a question about the console messages. Should the old messages be deleted from time to time to free up disk space or is OK to leave them. If they should be deleted-- how does one go about doing that? Thanks a lot.

Jeff

iMac 21.5", 3.06GHz Intel Core i3, Mac OS X (10.6.4)
  • 1. Re: Console Messages
    rkaufmann87 Level 8 Level 8 (42,145 points)
    Leave them be, the amount of space they take up is too small to worry about.

    Roger
  • 2. Re: Console Messages
    ~Bee Level 7 Level 7 (30,775 points)
    Benprio --

    Welcome to Apple Discussions!
    We're not staff, but other Mac users here, asking questions and sharing solutions.

    In addition to rkauffman's excellent advice, the new iMacs are excellent, and will handle all that you need with ease. You really don't have to worry about deleting stuff to make things better. Cleaning up a Mac is not something that is necessary, 99% of the time.

    Now, if you have repeating console messages, 500 in a second, then you need to pay attention, and find the reason for those ASAP.

    Do you know about the Activity Monitor application? It's in your HD > Application Folder > Utilities folder. You can click on that any time and see how much free disk space you have, and what, if anything, is taking up huge hunks of space.

    Overall, I wouldn't worry too much.
    Here are two articles for you that I hope will help:

    http://www.apple.com/support/mac101
    http://www.apple.com/support/switch101
  • 3. Re: Console Messages
    Benprio Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Roger and Bee-- Thank you both for your post and for your good advice. I will leave the console messages as they are now that I know they are not a space issue. Take care.
  • 4. Re: Console Messages
    rkaufmann87 Level 8 Level 8 (42,145 points)
    Your welcome and thank you for the star.
  • 5. Re: Console Messages
    ~Bee Level 7 Level 7 (30,775 points)


    All the best!
  • 6. Re: Console Messages
    Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,720 points)
    Benprio wrote:
    Hi-- I'm a new owner of an iMac and I'm learning my way around the computer. I have a question about the console messages. Should the old messages be deleted from time to time to free up disk space


    Yes, eventually, but your Mac will do that (and many other things) for you, automatically.

    There are a lot of "maintenance" apps available for Macs, but most folks don't need any of them. If there's a problem, they may be helpful, in some cases, but generally your Mac will take good care of itself.

    The best things you can do are:

    • Don't fill up your internal HD to more than about 85% full.

    • Let your iMac sleep, instead of powering it off, unless it won't be used for several days.

    • Just in case, do regular backups. There are many apps that can do that, and +Time Machine,+ one of the best and easiest, is built-in to Snow Leopard. There are various places you can back up to, but for an iMac, the best is to get a good external HD, at least 2-3 times the size of the data on your Mac (or expected to be on it in the next couple of years), and use Time Machine. You might want to review the [Time Machine Tutorial|http://www.apple.com/findouthow/mac/#timemachinebasics] and perhaps browse [Time Machine - Frequently Asked Questions|http://web.me.com/pondini/Time_Machine/FAQ.html] (or use the link in *User Tips* at the top of the +Time Machine+ forum).
  • 7. Re: Console Messages
    Benprio Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    James,

    Thanks for taking the time to reply. It's useful to know that my iMac will eventually delete the older console messages. I'm a recent convert to iMac from a PC (although I own an iPod and an iPad which I am more than happy with). Even though I have had my iMac for only two weeks I am very satisfied with my experience including my ability to convert my PC files over to Mac. I'm accustomed to doing "regular" maintenance on my PC so I'm learning to "let go and let Mac" do the maintenance.

    I will certainly take your advice and not let my HD fill up beyond 85%. I do put my iMac to sleep (rather than shutting it off) so I'm OK in that respect. I have not yet adopted a backup plan for my iMac which I know is something that I need to get in place ASAP.

    This Apple Discussion Board is fantastic and you and the other regular contributors have been fantastic in helping a "newbie" such as myself.

    My best to you.
  • 8. Re: Console Messages
    rkaufmann87 Level 8 Level 8 (42,145 points)
    When you are ready to institute your backup plan there is a great article MacWorld published. The article provides some good questions and answers so you can come up with the backup plan that best suits you. Here it is:




    The no-worry backup plan



    Roger
  • 9. Re: Console Messages
    Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,720 points)
    Benprio wrote:
    . . .
    I'm accustomed to doing "regular" maintenance on my PC so I'm learning to "let go and let Mac" do the maintenance.


    That's what I suspected; you're far from the first!

    This Apple Discussion Board is fantastic and you and the other regular contributors have been fantastic in helping a "newbie" such as myself.


    You're entirely welcome. Comments like yours are what keep us doing it!

    Good luck, and enjoy your Mac!
  • 10. Re: Console Messages
    Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,720 points)
    rkaufmann87 wrote:


    I must object to that article. In the *Pick What to Protect* paragraph, it advises not backing-up System files and Applications. That will save a few GBs but means you cannot do a full system restore, which is one of the main features of Time Machine!

    Instead, here's what you'd have to do:
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    • Install OSX from your Install disc.

    • Set up a temporary User Account (different from any on your backups).

    • Go through the set-up procedure for your Internet connection(s), power settings, and other system-wide settings and preferences.

    • Download and install the "combo" update, to get back to your current version of OSX.

    • If you've upgraded either OSX or iLife since purchasing your Mac, find the disks with iLife and restore those apps.

    • Find all the discs for 3rd-party apps and install them. Re-enter any purchase keys.

    • Find the websites for all downloaded 3rd-party apps, download and install them. Re-enter any purchase keys.

    • Restore users and their data, via Migration Assistant.

    • Wonder what you missed, and find out the hard way . . . for months . . . or longer.
  • 11. Re: Console Messages
    rkaufmann87 Level 8 Level 8 (42,145 points)
    Did you miss this sentence at the end of the paragraph?

    *"The choice is yours; you may want to start with a complete backup, and start omitting files only if you find your Time Machine drive filling up more quickly than you’d like."*

    I totally agree with you though, I think that paragraph could have been written better so it communicated that System files and Applications be backed up.
  • 12. Re: Console Messages
    Pondini Level 8 Level 8 (38,720 points)
    rkaufmann87 wrote:
    Did you miss this sentence at the end of the paragraph?

    *"The choice is yours; you may want to start with a complete backup, and start omitting files only if you find your Time Machine drive filling up more quickly than you’d like."*


    No. That's different -- presumably it means other things, such as user data. And it doesn't happen to mention that it won't save any space until all the backups of them are deleted. If you decide to omit system files and apps after the initial backup, it's even worse -- you've saved no space, and can't do a full restore from any backup made after doing the exclusion!

    I totally agree with you though, I think that paragraph could have been written better so it communicated that System files and Applications be backed up.


    Yeah, it does mention later, almost as an aside, that you can't do a full restore.
  • 13. Re: Console Messages
    rkaufmann87 Level 8 Level 8 (42,145 points)
    Well I think the overall message of the article is good, the next time I post it as a recommendation I will be sure to point out that I disagree with that paragraph.

    Thanks for pointing it out!