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I have all of my pictures on a 13" Macbook Mid 2010 but realized how much disk space my nikon D90 is taking up so I purchased an Iomega 500gb portable hard drive. I have searched previous posts and could not find the answer i was looking for so forgive me if i am asking the same old question.

I left clicked and dragged my Library from Aperture from the Aperture Program to the finder window that i opened for the External HD.

I apparently exported the Masters to the External Harddrive because the option to now export Masters is no longer available to me on the Aperture Program library(Internal HD). The option to export versions is available. However, I am now not sure how to proceed or if i royaly screwed up. I started reading about managed files and I am wondering if I should erase the External and start all over again. Anyway before i deleted the files on my Internal harddrive I tried connecting the apple tv. Unfortunately the external Harddrive did not show up when i switched Library in Aperture to External Harddrive.

Sorry about long post but I need help with two questions.

1-will apple tv recognize the external Harddrive if hooked up and is the current library for aperture?

2-Should I move my internal library over to the external one in a different way than i did? If i did do it right what should I do from here? Should I just command delete the library in my internal hard drive? Is there a better way to release the drive space on my internal hard drive?

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Posted on Nov 7, 2010 8:04 AM

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Nov 7, 2010 9:22 AM in response to Lil'Bear

Can't address the Apple TV issue but..

I positively absolutely would not delete the library on the internal HD until you're absolutely positively sure that the copied library is absolutely positively OK.

Do you have another backup of the library? Or are there just these two copies? If it's only these two then you realize if you delete the copy on the internal drive if anything happens to the external drive, and it will, your entire photograph collection is gone.

Dragging the library from the internal to the external drive should have been fine. Dragging between volumes copies the files so you should have two copies of your library now. Make sure you address the backup issue before deleting anything.

Nov 7, 2010 9:31 AM in response to Lil'Bear

Ok I was going to use the Western Digital Drive to back up both the Mac and leave the External plugged in via firewire and have the WD back that up as well. I think i need to go to were the setting is in time machine and exclude both the WD harddrive and the external drive with the photo library. This should tell Time machine to back up the external and the internal drive.

Please if i am not correct somebody help me here.

Nov 7, 2010 11:30 AM in response to Lil'Bear

OK, didn't realize you had another external drive you are using as a backup, wasn't mentioned in the first post.

You said:
"I think i need to go to were the setting is in time machine and exclude both the WD harddrive and the external drive with the photo library"

I hope you meant include there! Yes you could use time machine for this. Getting a third drive to use to setup an Aperture vault wouldn't be a bad idea either. Like I said in an earlier post, this is your photographic history, the more backups the better.

Nov 8, 2010 5:13 AM in response to Lil'Bear

I exported my versions from the Aperture Mac Library to my external HD. Now when I open the Harddrive in a finder window i have all of the projects as seperate folders and one item that says Aperture Library. The Aperture library I am Assuming is the Masters but how do I combine the whole thing? Hope sombody can help because I am running out of Harddisk space on the Macbook i am using for the Aperture program. Also I exported the masters to another external HD as a backup.

Nov 8, 2010 6:19 AM in response to Lil'Bear

Man, this is way too complicated…
I exported my versions from the Aperture Mac Library to my external HD. Now when I open the Harddrive in a finder window i have all of the projects as seperate folders and one item that says Aperture Library

Where to begin?
I'm not going to try and understand what you're doing because frankly, I don't think I can. So let me just give you an example of a working setup, given what you've been saying so far:
1) Keep your Aperture library on your internal hard drive. I'm talking about the actual library package, not the files themselves.
2) Use a referenced library. This means the picture files will be kept on the external drive. Not the library, just the picture files.
3) Backup those files to a third backup drive and use the vault to backup your library (in a referenced system the pictures aren't part of the vault backup).

Now, about exporting and the Apple TV. The only time you need to export anything is if you want to send a file to someone else or work with it in a specific format. That's pretty much it. You do not export for backup purposes - you want your original files and the AP database backed up.

The Apple TV and all Media Browser sharing in OS X is done through the Aperture generated Previews. It has nothing to do with your external drive being online, or its sharing setup. And again, you do not need to export for the Apple TV either. In iTunes select your ATV, go to Photos and select Aperture. All the projects/albums that contain pictures with previews will be available for streaming. Same goes or iPad, iPhone, iPod…

I apparently exported the Masters to the External Harddrive because the option to now export Masters is no longer available to me on the Aperture Program library(Internal HD).

That's weird. It should still be available no matter where the files are.

Here's what I suggest: if you still have *all your files* AND your library on your internal drive, start again. Delete what you copied to the external drive. Then, double-click the Aperture library on your internal drive (this is to make sure you're opening the right one). Once that's open, select ALL your photos and go to File>Relocate Masters. Choose a location on your external drive. Aperture will move all the picture files to this new location. Once that's done, you'll have a proper referenced library.

Finally: forget the Finder. You are now managing your photos through the Aperture database. That's your new Finder as far as photos are concerned. With Previews enabled (it's ON by default) you can drag and drop any picture from AP3 to anything else (Dock, Desktop, Applications). You can also browse and sync them through the iLife Media Browser.

There are all sorts of strategies regarding backups and Preview sharing that you can look into by doing a search on this forum. Check them out.

I know it's a lot to digest - but I hope it helps!

Jade

Nov 8, 2010 7:19 AM in response to Jade Leary

Wow Jade thank you for that amazing post. What you said is exactly what I am looking for. So now I will erase the external hard drive and then start over with relocate masters. This should leave me with only a referenced library on my laptop. So therefore, there is no danger of deleting the masters because in fact i did not move them by exporting correct? They should still be in my laptop which is why the memory usage did not go down.

Ok I think I am getting it. Thanks again for the amazing post.

Nov 8, 2010 7:51 AM in response to Lil'Bear

My pleasure, glad it helped.
So therefore, there is no danger of deleting the masters because in fact i did not move them by exporting correct?

Be very careful! If you used Export within Aperture then yes, you've simply created copies on the external. Those aren't masters at all. But since I'm not sitting next to you and can't see what's going on, I want you to be *extra careful*.

In Aperture's Browser, do the files have a little arrow at bottom right? If they do they're referenced, if not they're managed. Also, if you right-click on a referenced file you get an option to +Show in Finder+; this doesn't appear on a managed file.

I can't tell if you copied your Aperture library to the external drive. If you did, make sure you work with the library on your internal before doing anything else. Then make sure those pictures on your external aren't being used at all. Don't erase the entire hard drive. Just send the files to the Trash without emptying it until the move is done (if you have the drive space, I think you do). Or back them up to another drive to be safe.

From what I can tell you simply need to Relocate Masters as described and you'll be good to go… but deleting is your responsibility, not mine!

Always drive safely 😉

Nov 8, 2010 8:03 AM in response to Jade Leary

Jade is "managed" another way of saying "master"? I will check the laptop drive to see if they have those arrows you spoke of. I do have the drive space so I will try to relocate masters using the laptop harddrive. If the masters are not on the laptop will I still see the option to relocate masters? Sorry for all the questions. Thanks so much for your help I really appreciate it.

Nov 8, 2010 8:26 AM in response to Lil'Bear

Jade is "managed" another way of saying "master"?

Not at all!
1) Managed refers to how your library links to the master files. In a Managed library all the files are stored inside the library package (on your Macbook in this case). In a Referenced library the files are stored wherever you like, separate from the library. In this case, they'll be on your external drive. The library then contains only the database info (metadata, adjustments etc), Previews and thumbnails.

2) A Master is the actual picture you took, JPEG or RAW. In Aperture this master is never touched. It's your digital negative. Any adjustments you apply in Aperture creates a Version. You can have as many Versions of a picture as you like (they're only virtual). But if you delete the Master, the picture's gone for good. Previews (when automatically generated) always reflect the Version (otherwise you wouldn't see your adjustments). The Export function is how you send those Versions out into the world - or by printing, obviously.

If the masters are not on the laptop will I still see the option to relocate masters?

Yep. You can always choose to relocate the Masters. It's just a way to move files around while keeping Aperture aware of where things are going. If you were to move files around by using the Finder, Aperture would no longer know where the files are and would need to be re-linked.

Sorry for all the questions.

No trouble. But I'd suggest you sit down with the manual and also look at the Aperture tutorials. It'll give you a better idea of the fundamental philosophy behind Aperture. It's a big application and the concepts can be hard to grasp at first. Worth it though.

Nov 8, 2010 9:06 AM in response to Jade Leary

Jade is it possible to have a library that is both managed and referenced?

Is there a clear way to tell which type of library I have? If I know for sure that masters still reside on my laptop then it will make deleting the external drive and starting over that much easier. I have the space right now on the external but I have allready used a 100gb exporting.

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