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iMovie '11 Optimize on Import

When I was using iMovie '09, I made a habit of not optimizing (transcoding) events on import so that I could import a ton of stuff fast, take what I need and put together the final movie, and then do the transcoding during the rendering phase. This is absolutely essential for importing large events that I only want to use several clips out of, because it keeps me from wasting a ton of time upfront (what's the use of transcoding 4 hours worth of raw video for a 10 minute final render?) for all of my projects.

Now, with iMovie '11, even when I don't check the box for optimizing on import, it seems to do it anyway. What's going on here? Is there anything I can do about it, or will I just need to go back to iMovie '09?

Intel Macbook Pro 3rd Generation, Mac OS X (10.6.4)

Posted on Nov 7, 2010 7:49 PM

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Nov 8, 2010 4:19 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

As far as I know, they're pretty standard H.264 MP4s. Ingesting more selectively requires a lot of opening in QuickTime, trimming out the part I want, save as, reopen, new trim, save as, reopen, new trim, save as, etc. I'd prefer to just import fast, select what I need from the event viewer, and just trash the rest when I'm done.

My complaint is that this method worked fantastically in iMovie '09 and it's now taking 2 hours on my Macbook to import less than 10 minutes worth of video with iMovie '11. Generally speaking, except for this one massive flaw, the software feels much better and faster. I want to like it, but waiting 2 hours for it to transcode 10 minutes of video is a little over the top. I don't mind that kind of wait while it's rendering, because that's the end result. I need to import several, more than 10 minute clips and that dramatically increases the total time it takes to put together a project.

Nov 17, 2010 8:18 AM in response to iphonejunky

Doing a File Import.

If it helps, here's a smaller example file:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/984396/201011_11_2_2448.MP4

H.264/AAC, 720p (1280x720), 60 FPS, a little under 13 Mbps bitrate. iMovie '09 could import and work with these files without transcoding ahead of time without skipping a beat. iMovie '11 forces me to "optimize" these videos every time they're imported.

Nov 18, 2010 2:08 PM in response to Atrophius

I suspect I'm knows it can't work with 60p video--which likely is really only 30p--and decides to convert to 30p.

You never say what it is being converted to. If AIC, then apple has decided, at least for 60p, to not directly edit h.264! If this is also true for 30p h.264 it will be a killer for those who shoot long clips! The virtue of h.264 is that iMovie left it alone. I once wrote a program to cut long clips into tiny clips. Looks like I may need to see if it still runs.

When people say "me too" it would be helpful since you want help, to tell us your camera and what you are shooting.

Nov 19, 2010 5:54 AM in response to Steve Mullen

Using iMovie '11, I'm having what appears to be the same problem when importing H.264-encoded .mp4 files created by Handbrake using the latest "Normal" profile. The movies are forced through this many-hours-long optimization process when I import them. It is transcoding the .mp4s to .mov files, and the .mov files are MUCH larger than the corresponding .mp4 files - for example, a 2.8GB .mp4 is expanded to a 14.46GB .mov file. The .mp4 files use H.264, and the .mov files created by iMovie use the "Apple Intermediate Codec".

The movies in question are home videos originally shot on VHS; then pulled into iMovie 07 (years ago) via a DV cam and burned to a video DVD via iDVD 07; then ripped from DVD and converted to .mp4 by Handbrake last week.

This is very frustrating - I was planning to make a short video for my Dad's birthday this week, so I upgraded to the latest iLife before starting... and now 4 days later I'm still waiting for it to SLOWLY transcode them all just so that I can cut a few snippets out of each to use in my Dad's birthday video. Is there any way to speed this up?! Or do I need to revert to iMovie '09? WHY is iMovie '11 forcing this - I thought that iMovie could edit H.264 natively.

Message was edited by: Nate Lee

Nov 19, 2010 6:38 AM in response to Nate Lee

My guess is it gets too slow if you leave it in it's compressed format. Take a transition for instance. iMovie would have to decode both ends of the clips. Write the I/O out somewhere. Apply the transition. then re-encode it. All the will you are going, "why is iMovie taking so long" 😉

Final Cut has a sweet feature that lets you bring in the video as a "rough cut" then when you are done with your project you do the actual import. Then.. You render the real project and walk away.

iMovie '11 Optimize on Import

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