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  • Barbara Brundage Level 7 Level 7 (22,075 points)
    Just forget about the multitrack part. You're going to record one stereo track for the podcast.( If you were going to make a CD of the Christmas service or something, it would be different.) In Daw, for example, just tap to start one track, record it, save it, upload it to your computer or wherever, and you're done. They do have a bunch of tutorials on their website that are very helpful:

    http://forum.harmonicdog.com/viewforum.php?f=2

    You don't need all of it (punching in and so on). Just start at the bottom of the top part with First Recording Tutorial and work your way up through the next couple. It's confusing at first, but it's not hard at all.

    Yes, it would be nice if there were a professional quality recording app without all the extra features, but most people doing this kind of recording do want them, so you get them thrown in if you want the ability to control the input levels and like that.
  • Alan Cook2 Level 3 Level 3 (885 points)
    I posted a request in the Multitrack DAW forum for someone to give me a step by step on how I would record a song and then a sermon using DAW. I got the following response from pwnified, who I presume is one of the developers or one of their support people:

    Actually, we don't recommend using MultiTrack for field recording, where the recordings are long and you're not going to overdub (or multitrack) any other parts. This is because there is a cache track which spans the entire length of the song and is fairly wide (more than twice as wide as a single stereo track in wav format). This extra track is very costly in terms of filespace, but the cost is amortized much lower when you have many tracks in parallel. So MultiTrack is intended for shorter song lengths, with many tracks in parallel.

    Personally, if I'm going to record an impromptu jam session where I know I'm not going to do any overdubs, I always just use "FiRe" as a field recorder. It's a great little stereo recorder and has many exporting features.
  • Alan Cook2 Level 3 Level 3 (885 points)
    Does anyone know if FiRe will work with the Camera Connection Kit/Griffin iMic setup?
  • Barbara Brundage Level 7 Level 7 (22,075 points)
    I think you would need to ask them about that, since they don't really specify anything specific about using it with the ipad. My guess is it would.

    EDIT There's a thread around here somewhere from someone who had figured out how to do CD quality recording without ever using a computer, and it involved using both an ipod and ipad and both FIRe and DAW, but that was before the release of the CCK, so I don't know how having the CCK would have changed his procedure (which was extremely complicated, IIRC).
  • Alan Cook2 Level 3 Level 3 (885 points)
    I contacted Bias support (iProRecorder) and mentioned that someone said it "clips" when recording music. This is what their rep said in reply:

    The definition of "Clipping" is that to strong a signal is entering your recording device. If someone says that the iProRecorder "clips" when you record they simply do not understand the fundamentals of audio or the terminology they are using. There is no input gain on the iProRecorder, when using it with the built in microp but since you are using an external mic and mixer, this should not be a problem as there should be at least one gain control stage in that signal chain.
  • Barbara Brundage Level 7 Level 7 (22,075 points)
    This is very interesting. Since reading your post I've done more testing, but I'm still seeing the same thing, with the exact same setup that works fine with some of the other programs. If I reduce the input to the point where clipping is infrequent, the resulting track volume is so low and needs so much boosting in post that it sounds fake, but then again I have one of the trickiest instruments to record, so hopefully this is working fine for you. Perhaps it's just more sensitive to input levels. Let us know your results, please.
  • Alan Cook2 Level 3 Level 3 (885 points)
    I don't have the iMic yet...should be here some time this week. I will certainly let you know what happens when I get it and start testing.

    The same rep also said that none of their products were compatible with the iPad. When I challenged him that iProRecorder was working on the iPad he said, well, if it does it's unofficial and not supported by them. He wanted me to let him know how I got along with my proposed setup.
  • Alan Cook2 Level 3 Level 3 (885 points)
    I took delivery of the CCK yesterday and the iMic today. Tonight I went down to the church and did some basic testing. The recordings I got from me just speaking at the pulpit desk were very good.

    I tried both FiRe and iProRecorder and settled on the latter. It doesn't have as many features as FiRe, but it seems more stable and reliable. With FiRe, I found that if I stopped recording and then wanted to start again, sometimes I had to go into the "Categories" area and select the file again before the "record" button became live.

    Also with FiRe, when I tried to convert to MP3, it kept crashing and at one point totally crashed the iPad so it had to reboot.

    iProRecorder was problem free. I purchased Peak Express for editing the files. I like how you can just tell iProRecorder to "send file to Peak" and Peak on the Mac immediately recognizes an incoming file and asks you to accept it. I can then edit the file in Peak Express and convert it to MP3 ready for podcasting. So, this is going to be my workflow for now.
  • Barbara Brundage Level 7 Level 7 (22,075 points)
    Great, I'm glad you got a good workflow figured out for yourself.
  • Syrian_Kiwi Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    DAW description mentions headset plug is one way of input. Is it possible to record using the headset mic? Or a 3mm cable that is connected to my cassette player and the iPad in order to record from the Cassette player?...

  • RedeemerBakersfield Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    AlanCook

     

    So what do you do now? I have an iPad2 and want to use it to record sermons as well.


    What app and hardware do you use...if you still use it to record sermons?

     

    Thanks!

  • krayons Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    the guitar amp app would technically have to use line in recording capabilities.  Does anyone know of specific adapters just for this purpose?  perhaps the actual guitar amp adapter? 

  • ugiannini Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi Barbara,

    I'm a bit confused, is there no way of converting the headphone jack O/p to a Line Jack I/p? On the  laptops you can usually do this via system settings.

     

    Umberto

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