10 Replies Latest reply: Nov 11, 2010 4:32 PM by Bing Batten
Bing Batten Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
I'm going nuts! Spent most of the day yesterday trying to configure AE to extend network range. Older AE, (4 yrs?) never used. Last try got close to success. Reset the AE (reset button for 10 sec) and downloaded latest Airport Utility to work w/OS 10.4.(11). Configuration was going well until AU noted the network I wanted to join was password protected. I loaded the password but got an error msg to the effect "there was an error joining the network would you like to try again?" I tried again and the window noted "it might take a few seconds to find the device". I waited. Finally I selected "rescan". Got the previous window "it might take a few seconds..." I waited. No soap. Attempted and waited several times. Finally decided to start over. Accomplished another reset on AE and began. What followed was exactly what happened the first time through. I've just downloaded a firmware update but haven't loaded it to AE yet. Thought this was supposed to be a 5 min job. HELP! Thanks, bing.

iMac, PowerBook G4, OS 10.6.4 on iMac
  • 1. Re: Airport Express as network extender.
    Bob Timmons Level 9 Level 9 (78,645 points)
    Welcome to the discussion area, Bing!

    With very few excepions, the AirPort Express can only extend a wireless network if the network is being provided by another Apple router as your main device.

    If you have an older AirPort Express, you will need to use the "Participate in a WDS" settings on both the main router and the AirPort Express.

    So, let's clarify on the devices you have now to see if they would be compatible to do what you want.

    What is the make and model number of your "main" router?

    Check the model number on the side of the AirPort Express to see which version you have. It will probably be A 1084. Is that correct?
  • 2. Re: Airport Express as network extender.
    Bing Batten Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Hi! Thank you Bob!

    And, sorry to be so long getting back to the discussion, I had an appointment at 11:00.

    Yes it is a model A1084. Took me awhile to find the model number in the fine print. Here's the bigger picture...

    We have and old PowerMac G4, not the Sawtooth but one of the originals (I'm told). We're running OS 10.4.11 on it, same as on my trusty old titanium PowerBook G4 (from which I am writing). The old PowerMac sits in the sound room at our church and I'm ultimately trying to wirelessly connect it to the router in the church office located, (straight line) in another building about 40 to 50 meters away. The old Mac doesn't have any wireless capability so I purchased a Newer Technology MAXPower Wireless USB 2.0 Stick Adapter. With it, I've been able to connect to the church network with my PBG4 from just outside the sound room. Thought that with the AE I could make the bridge, ie PowerMac in the sound room (with USB adaptor) to AE to church office router to internet. The router in the church office is strange to me in that it must be a combination router/modem. It has a phone line plugged into it, but we have DSL, not dial-up through Qwest. The device is a Motorola 3347. If this old AE isn't compatible with these other devices then I need to go another route. Other World Computing has another device called the Edimax Access Point (about $60) that they think will do the job.. guess we would use it instead of the AE. I certainly appreciate any and all help. Thanks, bing
  • 3. Re: Airport Express as network extender.
    Bob Timmons Level 9 Level 9 (78,645 points)
    Unfortunately, the older version of the AirPort Express that you have would not be able to do what you want. A newer 802.11n version, Model A 1264 would be able to "join" a wireless network and provide a signal at the ethernet port if that would allow you to do what you want.

    Not sure if this would provide any help, but you could connect the Express that you have now to one of the ethernet ports on the Motorola router and configure the Express to create a wireless network.
  • 4. Re: Airport Express as network extender.
    Bing Batten Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I'll try it, Bob. Just tried to "join" after updating firmware. No help. So-o-o what you're suggesting is that I configure the AE as a new network? It is currently plugged into the Motorola ethernet so I guess I go back to AirPort Utility and select "I don't have a wireless network and I want to create one." The only other option is, "I want to connect AE to my computer or network using ethernet." See if I understand. If I "create" a new network the PowerMac would talk to the AE and the AE would talk to the Motorola through the ethernet?... so leave the AE connected to the Motorola via ethernet and hope the signal from the PMac is strong enough to make the leap?
  • 5. Re: Airport Express as network extender.
    Bob Timmons Level 9 Level 9 (78,645 points)
    It is currently plugged into the Motorola ethernet so I guess I go back to AirPort Utility and select "I don't have a wireless network and I want to create one." The only other option is, "I want to connect AE to my computer or network using ethernet." See if I understand. If I "create" a new network the PowerMac would talk to the AE and the AE would talk to the Motorola through the ethernet?... so leave the AE connected to the Motorola via ethernet and hope the signal from the PMac is strong enough to make the leap?


    That's correct. Try the "connect to network using ethernet option" and that should do what you want. I would try "create a wireless network" if the previous setting does not do what you want. ("Create" is normally used when you connect directly to a modem, and you are connecting to a router using ethernet)

    Message was edited by: Bob Timmons
  • 6. Re: Airport Express as network extender.
    Bing Batten Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Thanks again, Bob. I'll give it a shot and let you know.

    bing
  • 7. Re: Airport Express as network extender.
    Bing Batten Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Guess the gap is just too far. Can't see the AE from the sound room. I'll try to decide whether to go with a new AE or try the Edimax. Thank you again for your help, Bob. I'll try to post the ultimate solution.
    bing
  • 8. Re: Airport Express as network extender.
    Bob Timmons Level 9 Level 9 (78,645 points)
    If you don't want to run a long ethernet cable, you might want to take a look at a pair of ethernet powerline adapters to accomplish the same task by using the existing AC wiring to transmit the pseudo ethernet signal.

    These adapters have solved a lot of problems for me in the past when wireless just won't work because of distance and obstructions and it's just not feasible to drill through the walls and ceiling to run an ethernet cable.
  • 9. Re: Airport Express as network extender.
    Bing Batten Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I just purchased a Belkin Play N600 wireless dual-band N router. (Best Buy $70.) Unobstructed range is out to 600 ft. I will use it as a port to the existing Motorola. I'll keep you posted.
    Thanks, Bob
    b
  • 10. Re: Airport Express as network extender.
    Bing Batten Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    The saga continues! Loaded the install CD and wa-la. OS 10.4 won't cut it. Got to be 10.5 or later... even says so on the side of the box. I'm on my way back to Best Buy. More to follow...
    b