macbook pro 17, Mac OS X (10.6.5)
it is not possible to get a german keyboard layout product in the us.
it is not possible to order a german keyboard layout product in germany and deliver it to the us.
solution: it is possible to buy a spanish keyboard layout product (macbook, keyboards, etc.) and the key leyout will be the exact same. only difference is that the umlaut keys have obviously different characters (spanish) on them but if youre used to writing youll never recognize it until you look at the keyboard. all you need to do is to change the layout in the preferences.
tip: to make the alt-gr + Q working as @ sign, correct pipe key, {}, [] and other features, there is keyboard maestro to rewire the keys. if you need my presets let me know. fyi, i have two german layout keyboards in the US but i used my parents to forward them. this might work for keyboard but for actual products the price difference is dollar 1:1 to euro so its 20% cheaper to go with the spanish layout workaround in the US.
also: for refurbished spanish layout products you have to call the apple store hotline, online are only US layouts available.
big HINT for apple: make your keyboard layouts available everywhere. in the US you get spanish, french (awertz?), US and japanse (?!?)... seriously? ***. this is not helpful and its really not a big deal for such a big company, i assume german layout printed keyboards are produced in the same place all the others are produced too. even if it would cost me 20 bucks more it would still beat the currency difference + shipping cost + my parents time.
thanks.
Tobsn wrote:
big HINT for apple
To tell Apple your ideas, best use the channel they have set up for that, as you are only talking to other users here:
just saw your replay and i think you edited it ;)
i guess you already figured out that qwertz vs. qwerty is no issue at all because it's just ink on the keys. as long as the keys are in the right position the ink doesnt matter and the western spanish key layout is the exact same. as is two keys next to the P and three extra keys next to L with two keys next to the M and the additional <> key left of the Y (or Z in the original layout).
fyi: i just called the apple hotline asking for spanish keyboard layouts and they have none available or don't even know how to identify them (really apple?). therefore the best way to get a used spanish key layout product is probably hitting up ebay or craigslist. ... or buying a new one online.
(btw. they also dont have them in store)
Tobsn wrote:
qwertz vs. qwerty is no issue at all because it's just ink on the keys
It's no issue for me, but I can't tell whether the original poster might care more about the ink than the ISO configuration. For some users the ink does have priority.
When I went to the onlline Apple store and pretended to order a macbook air with a spanish keyboard I did not have any problem. It listed a part number of ZOJJ, for what it's worth.
Hello,
I just found out about this website 😀. It's called KBCovers and they sell foreign keyboard covers that you can put on the MBAs US keyboard and it has foreign letters printed on. Some of the foreign languages available are German, Hebrew, Italian, Russian, Spanish and many more. So you can buy a Macbook Air from the Apple store with a US keyboard but you'll have to buy a German keyboard cover from here:http://www.kbcovers.com/servlet/Detail?no=218
@gazella*: yeah, that makes no sense because you're still missing 2 important keys on the keyboard. they just arent there. you probably end up with two stickers you cant place anywhere.
btw. here are my "keyboard maestro" instructions to rewire apple's german system keyboard layout to work like a normal german keyboard layout (also useful for people who switch from windows to osx):
Tobsn wrote:
btw. here are my "keyboard maestro" instructions to rewire apple's german system keyboard layout to work like a normal german keyboard layout (also useful for people who switch from windows to osx):
Very useful! Another fix for those who want to use PC layouts rather than the Apple versions is to install the Logitech keyboard layouts, which I think are included when you download the Ukelele app.
I think European (ISO) and US (ANSI) keyboards only differ by 1 in terms of the number of character keys. What is the other one you are referring to?
<> key next to Y (Z on US keyboards) and three keys right of L instead of only two.
its 77 vs. 79 keys i think.
btw. i tried ukelele and its just not really working for me. i never got it working correctly so im just using keyboard maestro for it.
Tobsn wrote:
three keys right of L instead of only two.
That third key is just moved up to the right of P in the ANSI keyboard, so it is 78 vs 79.
yep you're right. but it still changes the layout a lot... its kinda silly but i can't code on US layouts. esp. because of the missing <>.
US: http://morgan.leborgne.free.fr/wiki/images/5/52/AppleKeyboard.jpg
DE: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/2007_09_30_de_Apple-Tastatur. jpg
🙂
Tobsn wrote:
its kinda silly but i can't code on US layouts. esp. because of the missing <>.
Not silly at all. There are even some languages which cannot be typed using Mac ANSI keyboards because mandatory characters have been put on that extra key only available on an ISO keyboard.
German keyboard in the USA?
