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WiFi Issues With MacBook Air

I am about two weeks in to my new Macbook Air and love it except for the wifi. I have had five or six other Mac laptops in the past five years including the original air. I can confirm that there are some wifi issues with the Macbook Air. Based on the messages posted here and my experience here is where I am. I think if it is a "N" network it seems to work fine. I have never had an issue with my Airport Extreme at my house or my Dad's Linksys at his house which is also an N. This also I think resolves the "is it an ISP" issue, since they are distinctly different ISP's and these both work perfectly.

My problems are on non-N's it seems. I travel a lot so I hit a lot of guest networks which are almost always "g". These networks I can generally find and attach to them but not get a consistent internet connection. With these networks I have found that turning the airport on/off and refreshing the IP address does not work. Again I can connect to the browser, in most cases get what appears to be a valid IP but not gain any internet access. I have found that a power down and reboot AFTER attaching to the network (but not getting the internet connection) will then give me a steady and consistent connection.

I need to do some more testing and I guess traveling to pin down some of these things but I wanted to share what I have found thus far, but I definitely think there is a problem with the wifi on the new MacBook Air's.

Thanks,

Macbook Pro and iMac 27" and iPad and iPhone and MacBook Air 2010, Mac OS X (10.6.5)

Posted on Nov 28, 2010 6:10 AM

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Aug 29, 2011 11:26 AM in response to ubiquity75

I think it's pretty clear that there are variations of how this whole problem surfaces... No need to go fighting about it 🙂


Like ubiquity, BT has never been in the picture for me as I don't use it and it's been off since day one, yet DAILY (on a secured network) i have disconnect issues. These issues don't relate to waking from sleep in anyway that I can see.


So, in summary, this is affecting people differently, and BT off does not fix them all... Nor did 10.7.1!


I will try using an unsecured network at home and see if I have the same problems. I have yet to try that.

Aug 29, 2011 12:03 PM in response to ubiquity75

ubiquity75, my MBA had the 'intermittent' network connectivity issues out of the box, and I initially suspected a HW issue (since every other device in my home worked OK including a MBP w/ lion). So I went to the Apple Store, and surprinsingly, the MBA had no problems and all the sites I usually had problems loading were extremely fast. The genious told me to wait for the first lion update, so I did. 10.7.1 did not fix the problem. In the midst of my frustration I found this thread, and with a combination of network setting changes I found a fix (documented in my previous post) that has been working (for me) for the past two weeks.


However, based on your comments, I went back to the default seetings and just tried it on the open network at barnes&noble. It works fine. Then I walked to the apple store I originally went to, and connected to their open network. It works fine.


This is very limited testing, but it seems to suggest that your theory is worth exploring (anyone in Apple listening?). I mentioned my story at the apple store for those of you thinking of taking your MBA to store and who would likely get the 'it works on our network, maybe it's your router?" line.


GP

Aug 29, 2011 12:10 PM in response to gcrump

I spent several hours with Apple care with the intermittent and time out issues -- they had me buy a new airport express to try as they said there is some kind of "loop" in my system. I need to set an appointment with Apple care to set it according to their instructions -- will let you know if it works. 10.7.1 did not fix it, and disabling BT did not fix it. As a last resort we will have to connect the "old-fashioned way" to get back to work as this is taking lots of time....

Aug 29, 2011 4:30 PM in response to sheilafrommarco island

sheilafrommarco island wrote:


I spent several hours with Apple care with the intermittent and time out issues -- they had me buy a new airport express to try as they said there is some kind of "loop" in my system. I need to set an appointment with Apple care to set it according to their instructions -- will let you know if it works. 10.7.1 did not fix it, and disabling BT did not fix it. As a last resort we will have to connect the "old-fashioned way" to get back to work as this is taking lots of time....

Sheila, I can confirm that using an Airport Express and/or Airport Extreme does NOT fix the problem. My home network has been reconfigured no fewer than three times, and I have tested no fewer than three wireless routers, all of which is detailed here, if you'd like to reference it when the Apple Store employees are suggesting you buy more Apple hardware to fix this problem: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3253568 . I am currently using an Airport Express N, and the problem is not resolved. Thanks for posting this.

Aug 29, 2011 4:33 PM in response to gabrielperez21

gabrielperez21 wrote:


ubiquity75, my MBA had the 'intermittent' network connectivity issues out of the box, and I initially suspected a HW issue (since every other device in my home worked OK including a MBP w/ lion). So I went to the Apple Store, and surprinsingly, the MBA had no problems and all the sites I usually had problems loading were extremely fast. The genious told me to wait for the first lion update, so I did. 10.7.1 did not fix the problem. In the midst of my frustration I found this thread, and with a combination of network setting changes I found a fix (documented in my previous post) that has been working (for me) for the past two weeks.


However, based on your comments, I went back to the default seetings and just tried it on the open network at barnes&noble. It works fine. Then I walked to the apple store I originally went to, and connected to their open network. It works fine.


This is very limited testing, but it seems to suggest that your theory is worth exploring (anyone in Apple listening?). I mentioned my story at the apple store for those of you thinking of taking your MBA to store and who would likely get the 'it works on our network, maybe it's your router?" line.


GP



Aha, thank you so much, Gabriel - emphasis mine above. This is an important post that documents the issue. Because the issue is intermittent and, as I suspect, likely related to secure networks, of course the problem is likely never to occur at the Apple Store itself. So we must document these issues on our own. I'd like to hear from anyone employed by Apple in the Support Forums. This is an egregious situation.

Aug 29, 2011 5:38 PM in response to gcrump

I too was having intermitent wifi errors with my new (2011) MBA. However, I was also having the problem with other apple products and a specific router. So while this may not be the end all fix for everyone, it defniitely was a fix for me and my issues.


Essentially I put my MBA and my iPhone as a static IP within my router. Logged into my router, told the MAC address that I wanted and assigned it a particular IP within the router. So for my MBA I have 192.168.1.4 and iPhone is 192.168.1.5.


I think the issue we are having is that it is not flushing the IP/DHCP with some routers causing an IP conflict, and when this happens, the wifi will drop.


I had the issue of it not connecting after sleep (sometimes still do, but a quick discconnect reconnect fixes that) with the MBA not connecting or not having internet access with limited connectivity.


Try putting your MBA with a static IP on your router and see if that fixes the issue.

Aug 30, 2011 6:37 AM in response to gcrump

Hello, i've just finished a phonecall with apple care and after many attempts we found a resolution that worked for me and that hopefully will work for the rest of you too.


1 - Load network preferences

2 - delete the wi-fi in the bar on the left hand side (press the little - at the bottom of the box)

3 - log out

4 - then create a new wi-fi

5 - connect to your usual wi-fi


Good luck with that one.


However, if that didn't work:


Another few options he gave me that didn't work for me but might for others are:

- Disable Bluetooth (read online that this worked for quite a few people)

or

- Unheck the box that says 'ask to join new networks'

or

- In the location bar, click edit locations and add a new location called test

or

- Create a new profile on your mac (he told me to call it test)

or

- move a file called com.apple.airport.a...plist (search for it) onto your desktop.

Aug 30, 2011 7:29 AM in response to gcrump

I have a new 13"MBA with the same problem. This is VERY annoying. I have tried every "solution" posted on the forums without any permanent effect. The only thing I have not tried is swinging a dead cat over the MBA at midnight by the light of the full moon in a cemetery.


I will keep reading the forums and trying combinations of "fixes". Hopefully one will be a permanent solution, and hopefully the next update to Lion will address the problem.

Aug 30, 2011 8:30 AM in response to greenxeyezz

Static IP assignment does not work to resolve this issue, if the issue is new MBA networking issue. As I reported while documenting my own problems, my home network had the following devices, working seamlessly, on the network:


- MacBook Pro, late 2007

- MacBook Pro, late 2009

- MacBook, 2007

- iPhone 4

- iPhone 3GS

- iPad 2

- another iPad2

- Xbox 360, summer 2011

- Assorted other laptops and devices from time to time.


Even though all other machines were working without flaw, I nevertheless did test three different wireless routers, including an Apple Airport Express N, as well as turned off DHCP on these routers to use static IP.


This did not solve the problem. As you state, it sounds like you had a different problem to start with.

Aug 30, 2011 8:32 AM in response to jejejeje

jejejeje wrote:


Hello, i've just finished a phonecall with apple care and after many attempts we found a resolution that worked for me and that hopefully will work for the rest of you too.


1 - Load network preferences

2 - delete the wi-fi in the bar on the left hand side (press the little - at the bottom of the box)

3 - log out

4 - then create a new wi-fi

5 - connect to your usual wi-fi


Good luck with that one.


However, if that didn't work:


Another few options he gave me that didn't work for me but might for others are:

- Disable Bluetooth (read online that this worked for quite a few people)

or

- Unheck the box that says 'ask to join new networks'

or

- In the location bar, click edit locations and add a new location called test

or

- Create a new profile on your mac (he told me to call it test)

or

- move a file called com.apple.airport.a...plist (search for it) onto your desktop.

Highlighted above are things that I and others have tried on this forum to make this problem go away. The highlighted things do not work. Frankly, I'm not going to waste my time with the first thing they told you to do (delete then re-add the WiFi network service), but if someone else wants to, they should - and then post when it stops working again so it can be documented.


Again, I am also speaking out about this issue on Twitter using the hashtag #mbawififail . I encourage you to do so as well.

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