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Q: WiFi Issues With MacBook Air

I am about two weeks in to my new Macbook Air and love it except for the wifi. I have had five or six other Mac laptops in the past five years including the original air. I can confirm that there are some wifi issues with the Macbook Air. Based on the messages posted here and my experience here is where I am. I think if it is a "N" network it seems to work fine. I have never had an issue with my Airport Extreme at my house or my Dad's Linksys at his house which is also an N. This also I think resolves the "is it an ISP" issue, since they are distinctly different ISP's and these both work perfectly.

My problems are on non-N's it seems. I travel a lot so I hit a lot of guest networks which are almost always "g". These networks I can generally find and attach to them but not get a consistent internet connection. With these networks I have found that turning the airport on/off and refreshing the IP address does not work. Again I can connect to the browser, in most cases get what appears to be a valid IP but not gain any internet access. I have found that a power down and reboot AFTER attaching to the network (but not getting the internet connection) will then give me a steady and consistent connection.

I need to do some more testing and I guess traveling to pin down some of these things but I wanted to share what I have found thus far, but I definitely think there is a problem with the wifi on the new MacBook Air's.

Thanks,

Macbook Pro and iMac 27" and iPad and iPhone and MacBook Air 2010, Mac OS X (10.6.5)

Posted on Nov 28, 2010 6:10 AM

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  • by ubiquity75,

    ubiquity75 ubiquity75 Sep 20, 2011 3:16 PM in response to gweir
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    Sep 20, 2011 3:16 PM in response to gweir

    (The suggestions in that post have not worked for me, btw. I tried them many weeks ago.)

     

    So, today, at home and trying to use my MBA - see my previous posts on this thread for minute documentation of what I've experienced and attempted - and my network speeds were absolutely choked to the point of being unusable.  Given that no one else was around and/or connected to the network, I decided to pursue one of my theories - that the combination of the MBA hardware + Lion + secured networks - were at the root of my problems.

     

    I used Airport Utility to turn off the WPA2Personal wifi security on my Airport Express and waited for the reboot.  I had experienced constant problems for hours today, despite restarts, turning Airport off and on multiple times, zapping PRAM, etc.  It wasn't until I turned off the Wifi security that I was suddenly up and running at normal speeds.  And here I am.

     

    I am documenting this and all problems with MacBook Air wifi and networking issues on Twitter at #mbawififail and urge you to do the same. 

     

    Are you experiencing networking problems of the kind documented on this thread?

    Are you on a secured network?

    Have you tried turning the security off, and testing, if you are able to?

     

    Please report back.

  • by ubiquity75,

    ubiquity75 ubiquity75 Sep 20, 2011 3:18 PM in response to ubiquity75
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    Sep 20, 2011 3:18 PM in response to ubiquity75

    ...and I imagine it goes without saying that running around with my home network unsecured is not a viable "solution" to this problem, any more than running with no Bluetooth, etc., has been.

  • by briller23,

    briller23 briller23 Sep 20, 2011 5:52 PM in response to ubiquity75
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    Sep 20, 2011 5:52 PM in response to ubiquity75

    All my issues started when I upgraded to Lion.

    You got it right - choked to the point of being unusable.

    I am an engineer and tried everything systematically via setups, configs, bands, channels, passwords, DNS's etc  with Airport Utility. It was a hige matrix.  I spent weeks on it and many, many hours and was amazingly frustrated with Apple's lack of serious help. Had 2 session at the Genius bar. 'Interfernce' was the mantra.

     

    After every change, I ran speedtest.net. Every once in a while I would get a 'clear path' but it would not last.

    then I found Kelly's post and gave it a try. I couldn't believe it worked. So far so good. Password protection works fine. Very simple home network : Airport Extreme 5th gen and MBA-13/256/4GB, 1 MBP and iMac. It is as if I had not upgraded to lion - like when I first got the MBA in April. Fingers are crossed till/if Apple comes up with a real fix. MBPand iMac never had a problem. 

     

    Briller

  • by mb1981,

    mb1981 mb1981 Sep 20, 2011 7:21 PM in response to briller23
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    Sep 20, 2011 7:21 PM in response to briller23

    Sorry briller, which one is kelly's post (I can't find any kelly username...)?

  • by briller23,

    briller23 briller23 Sep 20, 2011 7:54 PM in response to mb1981
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    Sep 20, 2011 7:54 PM in response to mb1981

    Sorry- It was not Steve Kelley- his fix was different and I was not comfortable trying it.

    http://younixgeek.blogspot.com/2011/08/issues-with-2011-macbook-air-dropping.htm l

     

    Here is one I did and it worked:

    http://thoughts.maayank.com/2011/08/wireless-problems-with-macbook-air-and.html.

     

    It in effective downgrades the Broadcom wifi drivers.

     

    Briller

  • by mymoon,

    mymoon mymoon Sep 20, 2011 10:29 PM in response to briller23
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    Sep 20, 2011 10:29 PM in response to briller23

    The maayank solution is, so far, BRILLIANT. Many hearty THANKS to YOU for bringing this to our attention! You are a good soul for supporting this thread as you have so far.

     

    M

  • by Nonjo,

    Nonjo Nonjo Sep 21, 2011 10:17 AM in response to ubiquity75
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    Sep 21, 2011 10:17 AM in response to ubiquity75

    I too am having problems connecting to a WPA2 network, while open access points without authentication are accessible. I'm using a mid-2011 MBA 13" with a 1.7 GHz i5

  • by mb1981,

    mb1981 mb1981 Sep 21, 2011 12:01 PM in response to ubiquity75
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    Sep 21, 2011 12:01 PM in response to ubiquity75

    Ok...

    it seems reasonable (a driver problem).

     

    Just a question: is it reversible?

    What about if in the next lion update they fix it? It is going to overwrite the driver?

  • by HTahir,

    HTahir HTahir Sep 22, 2011 9:07 AM in response to gcrump
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    Sep 22, 2011 9:07 AM in response to gcrump

    I also have the same issue. I am windows user and bought this just to have a change. But now fedup with wireless issue in MBA 13 2011 version.

  • by mbezzo,

    mbezzo mbezzo Sep 22, 2011 9:11 AM in response to gcrump
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    Sep 22, 2011 9:11 AM in response to gcrump

    Hi All,

    Just wanted to add that I've done the kext swap mentioned earlier and this does NOT work for me.  I had tried it when it was first posted in early august, and again earlier this week after 10.7.1 and both times i still had frequent drops. 

     

    Also, super horrible news!  My house was broken into and my air was stolen yesterday... SO that's pretty fun. Waiting to hear from insurance and all that fun stuff. 

     

    Hope this issue is resolved by the time I get a replacement.

     

    Thanks,

    matt

  • by ubiquity75,

    ubiquity75 ubiquity75 Sep 22, 2011 11:14 AM in response to mbezzo
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    Sep 22, 2011 11:14 AM in response to mbezzo

    That is horrible news and I'm sorry to hear it! Thank you for reporting in about the kext swap not working for you, either; I've also tried it twice. No dice.

     

    #mbawififail on Twitter.

  • by briller23,

    briller23 briller23 Sep 22, 2011 2:23 PM in response to mb1981
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    Sep 22, 2011 2:23 PM in response to mb1981

    only a thought- when the next Lion update comes out, have them do it at the Genius bar.

    Briller

  • by briller23,

    briller23 briller23 Sep 22, 2011 2:27 PM in response to ubiquity75
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    Sep 22, 2011 2:27 PM in response to ubiquity75

    That's a bummer, ubiquity.

    I am sad to say this has more the sense of a casino that the world's largest technology company. I have my fingers crossed till there's a fix.

  • by sheilafrommarco island,

    sheilafrommarco island sheilafrommarco island Sep 23, 2011 6:09 AM in response to gcrump
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    Sep 23, 2011 6:09 AM in response to gcrump

    After wifi working for several weeks with no problems, it now does not work at all again -- call scheduled with Apple Care Monday.  I have forwarded several of the "fixes" to my contact there for his input and will let all  know if anything works.  At last resort I will need to connect directly -- which defeats the entire portability purpose for buying this particular computer in the first place.  Once again I get the "timeout" response when I try to connect. 

  • by markmacbookair,

    markmacbookair markmacbookair Sep 24, 2011 6:23 AM in response to sheilafrommarco island
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    Sep 24, 2011 6:23 AM in response to sheilafrommarco island

    OK Guys!

     

    After having these same problems:

     

    My WIFI connection at home was disconnected EVERY time I woke my MacBook Air Mid 2011 13" up from sleep. It simply wouldn't find my 5 GHZ wifi. So I thought, let me try to connect it to my 2.4GHZ WIFI (Telekom 921V 2-channel router) and it worked once, but then displayed the same behavior on the 2.4GHZ channel and kept not wanting to find my preferred home WLAN after sleep or even after turning WIFI off and then on.

     

    Then I read a thread here that said something about the bluetooth/wifi connection, so I shut off my bluetooth on my MBA and wallah! It works, stays connected and finds the network after sleep. I've reproduced this now 4 times. Every time I turn bluetooth on, the macbook will simply not connect to my WIFI. When I turn bluetooth off, it connects in a couple of seconds and reconnects in a couple of seconds after waking up from sleep.

     

    Try this and I hope it works for you (it's obviously not and end-all solution, but if you're not using any bluetooth devices at least you might have a solid wlan connection.)

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