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Q: iTunes store account hacked

I'm posting this just to share my story and get reactions. It's a little detailed but I thought worth sharing.

On November 23, 2010 I purchased a single song from the iTunes store for .99. I used store credit that I had from a gift card I received last year. It was the first purchase I had made since July 2010.

On November 25, 2010 I received a receipt for 2 more separate orders to my account. These were for over $50 in iPhones apps. Here's a sampling of some of the purchases:

1 eREAD isoshu, v1.5, Seller: ChengDu YueTong Internet Information Co. Ltd (17+)
2 Plants vs. Zombies, v1.3, Seller: PopCap Games, Inc. (iDP)
3 Monkey Island 2 Special Edition: LeChuck's Revenge, v1.1, Seller: Lucasfilm International Services Inc.
4 Asphalt 5, v1.2.6, Seller: Gameloft (9+)
5 Let's Golf!® 2, v1.0.1, Seller: Gameloft (4+)
6 Frames & FX for Photos, v2.5.1, Seller: Imikimi, LLC (12+)
7 Stenches: A Zombie Tale of Trenches, v1.0.1, Seller: Thunder Game Works (9+)

I do not have a credit card linked to my account, so these were made using my store credit.

I have only 1 computer authorized for my account (my personal home computer). I live alone and no one else touches my Powerbook but me. I also DO NOT own an iPhone, so I would have no interest in apps.

After I saw these bizarre purchases, I checked my account. I noticed 2 strange things: My account information had changed: My street address was correct, but city, state and zip had changed to: Towson, MD 21286-7840. I have never lived in Maryland. Also, I noticed that my password recovery answer had changed to "Murray" in response to a question about my mother's maiden name. That's decidedly NOT my mother's maiden name. Also, my birthdate had changed to an incorrect month and day.

I immediately changed my password and my recovery question/answer challenge.

I reported problems on all of these purchases and also contacted iTunes Account Support by e-mail.

Within 24 hours I received an e-mail from "Vicki" at iTunes Customer Support. She wrote:

"When reviewing over your account "name@domain.net" and the two reported orders, it shows that the content purchased within them was acquired from the computer that is currently authorized for your iTunes account. So I strongly advise that you do consult with those in your household regarding the purchases made, and the charges that resulted from those purchases."

Further:

"I have gone and reversed the charges for the two orders....You will see a store credit in three to five business days....Please note that this is a one-time exception, as the iTunes Store Terms and Conditions state that all sales are final."

I am pleased that Apple is refunding my store credit and replied so quickly.

However, it is simply impossible that these purchases were made from my computer. Again, my Powerbook is the only computer I have ever authorized to access my account, and I am the only person with access to it.

I am not sure how this happened. Any thoughts or similar experiences?

Powerbook G4, Mac OS X (10.5.8)

Posted on Nov 28, 2010 3:45 PM

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  • by bshreffler,

    bshreffler bshreffler Mar 6, 2012 2:55 PM in response to stereocourier
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    Mar 6, 2012 2:55 PM in response to stereocourier

    Update, having waited 9 days for another response from the person who had contacted me previously via that route, I grab a human through the "chat" option.  My ID is finally re-enabled and my credit amount is restored.  The human I talked to was courteous and did quickly resolve the issue, however there wasn't much in the way of reassuring information regarding what Apple was doing about this problem.  Nor was there a history of my interaction with the first person who was working on this case...the one who had restored my funds but then just dropped the whole matter leaving my ID locked.  Kind of screwy there.

     

    Now I need to consider my next steps carefully.  I don't want to put financial information in iTunes.  Pre-paid card? Blegh!!

  • by jake2034,

    jake2034 jake2034 Mar 6, 2012 3:38 PM in response to stereocourier
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    Mar 6, 2012 3:38 PM in response to stereocourier

    Yup, looks like there's been a spike in account phishing on iTunes. It happened to me today. There were two charges of $40 and $30 on the free app "Haypi Dragon". Reason I found was I got an e-mail from Apple sayin an app and in-app purchase was made on another device.

     

    I contacted iTunes through e-mail, told them the purchase number, and said someone used my information to purchase this. They said they'd make an exception in my case, to the "no refund" policy. They said they'd locked the account, asked if I'd want it re-activated (of course, yes), and manually reset my password, but didn't tell me the password they set (for security reasons). All informed me to reset my password, and change the security question.

     

    The refund came promptly (through my PayPal account I use for billing). The charges didn't even touch my bank account. And now with my new password, I'm back up and running. So, I'm not too frustrated. Just hope Apple tightens security.

     

     

    iTunes hasn't been "hacked" per say. Just account information has been phished. The infrastructure of iTunes and Apple hasn't been tampered with. That's my theory at least. Because when this happened the last time, Apple denied being "hacked".

  • by MadScientistZ,

    MadScientistZ MadScientistZ Mar 6, 2012 3:44 PM in response to jake2034
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    Mar 6, 2012 3:44 PM in response to jake2034

    I believe that you are wrong about this. I believe that Apple iTunes' servers HAVE been hacked. I believe that a program called 'Apple Hack' which is available in China was used to brute force our passwords.

     

    The real question is: how does 'Apple Hack' get into Apple's servers and why doesn't Apple boot the program after numerous incorrect attempts to 'guess' the password.

     

    In my case, and in numerous cases cited here, it was impossible to 'phish' my password.

  • by Carlo TD,

    Carlo TD Carlo TD Mar 6, 2012 3:46 PM in response to MadScientistZ
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    Mar 6, 2012 3:46 PM in response to MadScientistZ

    Are you able to replicate what you believe... if not it is only speculation.

  • by MadScientistZ,

    MadScientistZ MadScientistZ Mar 6, 2012 3:50 PM in response to Carlo TD
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    Mar 6, 2012 3:50 PM in response to Carlo TD

    I have a doctorate in computer science and am a consultant for government agencies.

     

    It is my my professional opinion that the problem is at Apple's end and the iTunes hacks are not due to 'phishing' attacks on the user side.

  • by jake2034,

    jake2034 jake2034 Mar 6, 2012 3:54 PM in response to MadScientistZ
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    Mar 6, 2012 3:54 PM in response to MadScientistZ

    Well, I'll admit, I'm not the smartest at this. I guess what I meant was people drew information out of Apple's database, instead of messing with their products to force purchases automatically.

  • by Carlo TD,

    Carlo TD Carlo TD Mar 6, 2012 3:56 PM in response to MadScientistZ
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    Mar 6, 2012 3:56 PM in response to MadScientistZ

    well... i might not be as smart as you... but just because you have a doctorate... some of the brightest people... are well... could always learn something. What country do you have your doctorate in?

  • by L.Robinson,

    L.Robinson L.Robinson Mar 6, 2012 8:00 PM in response to jake2034
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    Mar 6, 2012 8:00 PM in response to jake2034

    The exact same thing happened to me today. I am on vacation, and I thought someone had broken into my house and was using my itunes and my computer.  I have already logged into paypal and disputed the charges.  One of the charges was for the app in the app store, the other purchase was an in app purchase I believe.  It was an itunes item anyway.  I have been replaying the last few days in my mind to see if I used any shady wifi sites or anything. It seems so obvios that whoever wrote this app is basically trying to steal our money, and or funnel our money.  There was one thing which was strange to me,, the other day I was using ebay on my mobile phone and i noticed that the site was no longer secure signin.  it was the mobile site.  I tried my password three times and nothing happened. I went back through to ebay, and then was redirected to the mobile site.  It seemed like the mobile site was secure, but then after I entered my password it just basically refreshed the login screen.  if anyone from apple is reading this, that is the only thing i can think of that might have been compromised.

  • by bigalba,

    bigalba bigalba Mar 7, 2012 12:21 AM in response to stereocourier
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    Mar 7, 2012 12:21 AM in response to stereocourier

    An update to my own original complaint to thank Apple for refunding my lost credit within 24 hours of reporting it.

  • by MadScientistZ,

    MadScientistZ MadScientistZ Mar 7, 2012 4:56 AM in response to Carlo TD
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    Mar 7, 2012 4:56 AM in response to Carlo TD

    I received my doctorate in computer science from a major U.S. university (Big 10).

     

    I don't store passwords on my computer. And I have never given passwords out to anybody who sent me an email or called me on the phone. Consequently, I can deduce that the security breach on iTunes was not at my end. Indeed, if anybody broke in to my office and stole passwords the least important password would be for my iTunes account.

     

    This breach of password security could only occur at Apple's end.

  • by Carlo TD,

    Carlo TD Carlo TD Mar 7, 2012 5:41 AM in response to MadScientistZ
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    Mar 7, 2012 5:41 AM in response to MadScientistZ

    I am sure the engineers at Apple hold many doctrates, including that in Networking, networking security, server administration, various computer programming languages, design, computer science as well as in business, physics, math, and even humanities. I am also sure that they have people of All age levels, with unique specialties, and of various ethnicities. It is not a matter of storing passwords on the computer, passwords are stored on the computer, regardless of if we leave the little check mark in the "remember in key chain" or not. You don't have to give passwors out. Software engineers have devised something called bots that let them try passwrods at random, hense many times you have to enter a CAPTCHA to prove your a human. They even have password dongles (by the way I think is really cool - and I am not a bad guy)

    http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/05/diy-password-dongle-logs-you-in-saves-you-fro m-rsi/

    There are even sites that teach others about what hackers do (hak5) and they have shown various videos, for example,

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr5upPHqhlA

    or

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrQgcmlz0FA

    or

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjOduug-SC8

     

     

    would you like me to show you more?

  • by the usernamekatyisalready taken,

    the usernamekatyisalready taken the usernamekatyisalready taken Mar 7, 2012 6:13 AM in response to Carlo TD
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    Mar 7, 2012 6:13 AM in response to Carlo TD

    Just been hacked too . Over £60 taken from a gift card credit. Look like Japenese apps. Have contacted Apple via Express Lane (oh why can't I just speak to a human being???). Hope I get my £60 back. Not happy.

  • by MadScientistZ,

    MadScientistZ MadScientistZ Mar 7, 2012 8:17 AM in response to Carlo TD
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    Mar 7, 2012 8:17 AM in response to Carlo TD

    I don't use Mac computers (I stopped writing for the Macintosh when their market share dropped below 7% in the '90s). I don't store passwords on my computer. And, yes, there are some very talented people working for Apple (I know many of them).

     

    Here is the problem with Apple security and iTunes:

     

    1. Everybody on this list has reported the same thing: unauthorized charges on their iTunes account for apps downloaded to unauthorized devices. Why is Apple allowing this?
    2. When bots (like Apple Hack) repeatedly attempt to brute force a password the system SHOULD throw them out and lock down that account. Why isn't Apple doing this?
    3. Apple says that our account information is encrypted. I take them at their word. How then are our encrypted user IDs and passwords cracked? It is very time consuming to break standard 128 or 256 bit encryption. I think that somebody has Apple's encryption key.
  • by puddle62,

    puddle62 puddle62 Mar 7, 2012 2:23 PM in response to caebrasil br
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    Mar 7, 2012 2:23 PM in response to caebrasil br

    My account has just been cleaned out also.

  • by Peewh,

    Peewh Peewh Mar 7, 2012 9:34 PM in response to lluke71
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    Mar 7, 2012 9:34 PM in response to lluke71

    My account got cleaned out too from seller koramgame.com for some asian game.  I had loaded a $50 gift card but luckily purchased a few albums before the fraud hit so it's only a $16 claim against me.  When it says Billed to: Store Credit, does that mean that the money is still owed or that they purchased off my gift card?

     

    I've since taken my credit card off the account.  I read somewhere else that someone got charged $5000 and wasn't able to claim any of it back. 

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