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Q: iTunes store account hacked

I'm posting this just to share my story and get reactions. It's a little detailed but I thought worth sharing.

On November 23, 2010 I purchased a single song from the iTunes store for .99. I used store credit that I had from a gift card I received last year. It was the first purchase I had made since July 2010.

On November 25, 2010 I received a receipt for 2 more separate orders to my account. These were for over $50 in iPhones apps. Here's a sampling of some of the purchases:

1 eREAD isoshu, v1.5, Seller: ChengDu YueTong Internet Information Co. Ltd (17+)
2 Plants vs. Zombies, v1.3, Seller: PopCap Games, Inc. (iDP)
3 Monkey Island 2 Special Edition: LeChuck's Revenge, v1.1, Seller: Lucasfilm International Services Inc.
4 Asphalt 5, v1.2.6, Seller: Gameloft (9+)
5 Let's Golf!® 2, v1.0.1, Seller: Gameloft (4+)
6 Frames & FX for Photos, v2.5.1, Seller: Imikimi, LLC (12+)
7 Stenches: A Zombie Tale of Trenches, v1.0.1, Seller: Thunder Game Works (9+)

I do not have a credit card linked to my account, so these were made using my store credit.

I have only 1 computer authorized for my account (my personal home computer). I live alone and no one else touches my Powerbook but me. I also DO NOT own an iPhone, so I would have no interest in apps.

After I saw these bizarre purchases, I checked my account. I noticed 2 strange things: My account information had changed: My street address was correct, but city, state and zip had changed to: Towson, MD 21286-7840. I have never lived in Maryland. Also, I noticed that my password recovery answer had changed to "Murray" in response to a question about my mother's maiden name. That's decidedly NOT my mother's maiden name. Also, my birthdate had changed to an incorrect month and day.

I immediately changed my password and my recovery question/answer challenge.

I reported problems on all of these purchases and also contacted iTunes Account Support by e-mail.

Within 24 hours I received an e-mail from "Vicki" at iTunes Customer Support. She wrote:

"When reviewing over your account "name@domain.net" and the two reported orders, it shows that the content purchased within them was acquired from the computer that is currently authorized for your iTunes account. So I strongly advise that you do consult with those in your household regarding the purchases made, and the charges that resulted from those purchases."

Further:

"I have gone and reversed the charges for the two orders....You will see a store credit in three to five business days....Please note that this is a one-time exception, as the iTunes Store Terms and Conditions state that all sales are final."

I am pleased that Apple is refunding my store credit and replied so quickly.

However, it is simply impossible that these purchases were made from my computer. Again, my Powerbook is the only computer I have ever authorized to access my account, and I am the only person with access to it.

I am not sure how this happened. Any thoughts or similar experiences?

Powerbook G4, Mac OS X (10.5.8)

Posted on Nov 28, 2010 3:45 PM

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  • by MaxPotter,

    MaxPotter MaxPotter Mar 21, 2012 1:37 PM in response to mfromnc
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    Mar 21, 2012 1:37 PM in response to mfromnc

    I got hacked this morning. A small charge, but I caught it & called my cc company, then changed my passwords. If enough people are calling their cc providers to complain, maybe Apple will deal with the problem. As soon as I get home from work I'm deleting every free app I've downloaded from the app store onto my iPad2. Anything else I should do?

  • by Carlo TD,

    Carlo TD Carlo TD Mar 21, 2012 6:19 PM in response to stereocourier
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    Mar 21, 2012 6:19 PM in response to stereocourier
  • by transmogrification,

    transmogrification transmogrification Mar 21, 2012 7:32 PM in response to Carlo TD
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    Mar 21, 2012 7:32 PM in response to Carlo TD

    Thanks for the post! This reminds me that there is all sorts of malware out there. It's something everyone should be aware of. I installed ClamXav years ago and keep it updated. I scan my computer regularily. Recently I have started seeing some quarantines, not from places I've gone, but from spam mail in spam email folders, I haven't cleaned out. It's a good idea to practice prevention, when it comes to computer security.

     

    Thanks for the helpful post!

  • by MadMacs0,

    MadMacs0 MadMacs0 Mar 21, 2012 10:14 PM in response to MaxPotter
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    Mar 21, 2012 10:14 PM in response to MaxPotter

    @MaxPotter

     

    > If enough people are calling their cc providers to complain, maybe Apple will deal with the problem.

     

    What would you have Apple do? Every loss of an Apple ID on a Mac can be traced back to a user who responded to a phishing attack and entering their information on a fake website; perhaps recently by installing a Trojan either by failing to keep their software up to date or blindly clicking "OK" without paying close enough attention to what they were approving; or using the same weak password on multiple sites. Apple tries to protect the user against himself, but sometimes that's just not enough.

     

    As far as we know, there is no Zeus for Mac yet, but I suspect that day will come soon enough.

  • by Shoe100,

    Shoe100 Shoe100 Mar 21, 2012 10:22 PM in response to MadMacs0
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    Mar 21, 2012 10:22 PM in response to MadMacs0

    My credit card details weren't obtained by a result of phishing or entering my details on a fake site, it was apple.com US as I legitmately purchased a software product from the same site just prior to my credit details being used elsewhere. My PC is also clean. To my mind Apple are the reason my credit card information was used by a third party and my bank shares this view.

  • by Carlo TD,

    Carlo TD Carlo TD Mar 22, 2012 1:01 AM in response to Shoe100
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    Mar 22, 2012 1:01 AM in response to Shoe100

    The article's focus is on the increasing use of malware in this case it was te Zeus malware or trojan not to mention the increase of cyber crime.

     

    @transmogrification is correct,

    "there is all sorts of malware out there. It's something everyone should be aware of. ... It's a good idea to practice prevention, when it comes to computer security."

  • by akimbobyte,

    akimbobyte akimbobyte Mar 22, 2012 4:09 AM in response to MadMacs0
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    Mar 22, 2012 4:09 AM in response to MadMacs0

    I disagree.  I do computer tech support for a living and I'm well acquainted with scams, phishing, etc. and I never click links inside emails or give out personal information - and I still got hacked last week.

    Has anyone considered the fact that the iTune site itself may have gotten hacked and THAT'S how they got our information?  I think it's time Apple quit acting like they are bulletproof and quit thinking "it can't happen here".

  • by Steven Bobbitt,

    Steven Bobbitt Steven Bobbitt Mar 22, 2012 4:18 AM in response to akimbobyte
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    Mar 22, 2012 4:18 AM in response to akimbobyte

    I agee with akimbobyte, I'm very careful about those things, if they somehow hacked my computer they would have gotten alot more than just itune apps.

     

    Seems like a lot of these hacks happen with giftcards, I wonder if there is a relationship with these on whats happening.

  • by puddle62,

    puddle62 puddle62 Mar 22, 2012 4:24 AM in response to stereocourier
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    Mar 22, 2012 4:24 AM in response to stereocourier

    I am totally with you on this. The fault lies with Apple itself. Whilst like yourself I am very conscious of opening spurious links and have invested a lot of money in security sytems this site was able to hack into my account which I had entrusted to Apple. They have a duty of care to protect this information and money that I have entrusted to them. I accept that hackers may well have managed to hack there servers (heck the hacked the Pentagon), Apple still seem to be blaming their customers for being lax with passwords. Get a grip Apple and get off the shelf.

  • by Steven Bobbitt,

    Steven Bobbitt Steven Bobbitt Mar 22, 2012 4:30 AM in response to puddle62
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    Mar 22, 2012 4:30 AM in response to puddle62

    There are certainly things apple can enforce to protect users. Can bind our mac address to the store so only the devices we own can make the purchase - a new device would take a few steps of security to add. Facebook has a neat option if you connect your mobile device to your account.  Try loggin in a different computer you get rejected, but recieve a text on your phone with a code you can use to login - and if it wasn't you, you know instantly someone is trying to get into your account.

  • by Paula_R,

    Paula_R Paula_R Mar 22, 2012 5:20 AM in response to Steven Bobbitt
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    Mar 22, 2012 5:20 AM in response to Steven Bobbitt

    There is no question in my mind that Apple's servers have been / are under attack and their encryption algorithms have been partially cracked (which is why the company is now requiring far stronger passwords than it did just a month ago).

     

    To suggest otherwise is incredibly naive.  I mean, as of this writing 210,000 people have viewed just this one forum.

     

    The right thing to have done was to simply have all users change their passwords.  The company didn't need to even mention why.  But now there have been articles in the tech press and the NY Times...and it's not over yet.

     

    Imagine the outcry if Microsoft had this same problem.  The media and tech press would be all over it.  Apple won't maintain this kind of insulated status for long if it doesn't fess up, fix the $##$$ problem and move on.

  • by MaxPotter,

    MaxPotter MaxPotter Mar 22, 2012 10:08 AM in response to MadMacs0
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    Mar 22, 2012 10:08 AM in response to MadMacs0

    @MadMacs0

     

    You're absolutely right. I'm really embarrassed. I publicly trashed Apple, so I feel it's only right that I publicly confess that I was completely in the wrong! I thought I had been hacked, but I had NOT. I made a mistake, jumped to the wrong conclusion and blamed Apple.

     

    For whatever reason, it took a long time for something I had downloaded off of iTunes to get invoiced to me (via PayPal...which didn't have the product description, only the dollar amount). It's not the first time, but I had forgotten. I called the cc company to see exactly when the charge had been made...maybe I could recall if I knew what the item was and the date...but nobody could tell me the exact date of the charge. Just the posting date. Which was yesterday.

     

    So, after all of this kerfuffle, lo and behold, last night I got the receipt from iTunes...with the dollar amount AND the description.

     

    Oh.

     

    Oops.

     

    So now I feel like a complete idiot. Unfortunately, I do a lot of stupid things. Sorry Apple.

  • by jmeharker,

    jmeharker jmeharker Mar 22, 2012 12:45 PM in response to MaxPotter
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    Mar 22, 2012 12:45 PM in response to MaxPotter

    @Carlo TD - You're in the wrong thread.  This has nothing to do with malware.

     

     

    MaxPotter wrote:

     

    So now I feel like a complete idiot. Unfortunately, I do a lot of stupid things. Sorry Apple.

     

     

    @Apple - When people make a mistake, they apologise.  You should take note of this.

  • by trailbossc,

    trailbossc trailbossc Mar 22, 2012 5:18 PM in response to jmeharker
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    Mar 22, 2012 5:18 PM in response to jmeharker

    @Carlo TD always wanting to blame malware/viruses/phishing.  I was hacked in December of 2010.  I have still  not found any viruses or malware on any of my computers.  They are the same computers that I was using then and still using now.  I have not been hacked on any accounts other than that one time in December when they stole my iTunes store credit.  The only thing that I have done differently up to this point, is not added another gift card.  If I was a victim of those things, don't you think that I would have been hacked again by now?  I still have gift cards that I purchased in Dec 2010 and have yet to use, but I think it will be interesting to see how long they last in my account after I finally do put them in.

  • by ArdenEden,

    ArdenEden ArdenEden Mar 22, 2012 6:36 PM in response to trailbossc
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    Mar 22, 2012 6:36 PM in response to trailbossc

    Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but it is most certainly not malware in my case. How can I be so sure? Well, not only am I not dumb enough to visit bogus sites and click on links within e-mails - even seemingly legit e-mails - but if it were a keylogger it would have had to log my keys five months ago; that was the last time I made an actual purchase from iTunes. How do I know it didn't do that? I think it's pretty far-fetched to think that anyone would hesitate even thirty minutes after achieving a successful hack to use the info, much less five months, yes? You find it hard to believe that I haven't purchased anything from iTunes for five months? Well, I'm not addicted to downloading useless games (like the ones purchased using my account today) and I live on a reasonable budget. Oh, also I have a CD collection (you remember those circular things that used to play music?) that requires an entirely separate trip when I move so that I can get them all in my car, so many of my music needs are already uploaded and taken care of.

     

    Back to the keylogging - I actually have logged into far more enticing accounts more recently: bank account, amazon account, and about fifteen other merchant accounts over the months. So if they've been watching for five months (assuming my antivirus and antimalware have completely overlooked them) why would they go for $20 worth of games when they could clean me out and order entire game systems? Nope. Sorry. The hack is coming from inside the building.

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