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Q: Ipad ram memory question

Hi there,

My ipad, and so is everybody elses, is said to have 256 mb of ram memory. Now I downloaded the app Pad info, which shows me how many of my memory is wired, active, inactive and free. But these four together is never 256. It Mostly is between 165 and 200. How is this explainable?

Thanks for the explanation

16 gig ipad, Mac OS X (10.6.2), quad i5

Posted on Nov 30, 2010 12:19 PM

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  • by anilsudhakaran,

    anilsudhakaran anilsudhakaran Nov 30, 2010 2:00 PM in response to Roy 27inch
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    Nov 30, 2010 2:00 PM in response to Roy 27inch
    You should ask the App maker why their numbers do not add up.
  • by Johnathan Burger,

    Johnathan Burger Johnathan Burger Nov 30, 2010 4:56 PM in response to Roy 27inch
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    Nov 30, 2010 4:56 PM in response to Roy 27inch
    Poorly written app.
    The real question is why would you download something like that?

    The ipad dynamically controls memory usage.
    There are no user adjustable memory management settings.

    Message was edited by: Johnathan Burger
  • by Philly_Phan,

    Philly_Phan Philly_Phan Nov 30, 2010 5:09 PM in response to Roy 27inch
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    Nov 30, 2010 5:09 PM in response to Roy 27inch
    That app, if accurate, should be named "TMI" and, if inaccurate, well the mods will get upset with me if I use that word.
  • by Chris CA,

    Chris CA Chris CA Nov 30, 2010 5:27 PM in response to Roy 27inch
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    Nov 30, 2010 5:27 PM in response to Roy 27inch
    Adding those four things does nothing.
    Kinda like adding, watermelons, lemons, fish and cars.
    It is meaningless.
    -> http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Performance/Conceptual/Man agingMemory/ManagingMemory.html

    From -> About.com - OS X Memory Usage
    Free. This one is pretty straightforward. It's the RAM in your Mac that isn't currently in use, and can be freely assigned to any process or application that needs all or some portion of available memory.

    Wired. This is memory your Mac has assigned to its own internal needs, as well as the core needs of applications and processes you're running. Wired memory represents the minimum amount of RAM your Mac needs at any point in time to keep running. You can think of this as memory that's off limits for everyone else.

    Active. This is memory currently in use by applications and processes on your Mac, other than the special system processes assigned to Wired memory. You can see your Active memory footprint grow as you launch applications, or as currently running applications need and grab more memory to perform a task.

    Inactive. This is memory that's no longer required by an application but hasn't yet been released to the Free memory pool."
  • by Ralph Landry1,

    Ralph Landry1 Nov 30, 2010 5:57 PM in response to Chris CA
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    Nov 30, 2010 5:57 PM in response to Chris CA
    Chris, best answer I have seen on the memory usage question. While it may an interesting academic exercise to try and assess the memory in a particular computing device, in the real world it is not relevant. Well written software and OSs work together to use the available memory and mass storage to accomplish a task. If you are concerned about speed, then the more memory the better because it feeds the CPU fastest. But, you can get the job done via mass storage, i.e., HD or SSD, swapping.

    Back in the old days, when memory was outrageously expensive, we had to fool the computers by using overlay specifications...made a program and OS think there was more physical memory than actually existed. But that is probably boring you all.
  • by mauijiminar,

    mauijiminar mauijiminar Nov 30, 2010 6:39 PM in response to Chris CA
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    Nov 30, 2010 6:39 PM in response to Chris CA
    + 1
  • by Roy 27inch,

    Roy 27inch Roy 27inch Dec 2, 2010 2:16 AM in response to mauijiminar
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    Dec 2, 2010 2:16 AM in response to mauijiminar
    I guess my knowledge is just to small, I assumed when I add all types of memory, It would be 256 all together, because it also adds the free memory. (the app does that actually)
    I downloaded this app to see how much ram the apps are using, and it shows it pretty well, when I close apps, I see which is using lots and which aren't
  • by Johnathan Burger,

    Johnathan Burger Johnathan Burger Dec 2, 2010 10:12 AM in response to Roy 27inch
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    Dec 2, 2010 10:12 AM in response to Roy 27inch
    To what end?
    What does it matter?
    Why?

    You cannot adjust any settings or alter memory usage at all, so why bother monitoring it?

    Using something like this makes no sense at all.
  • by roryobryan,

    roryobryan roryobryan Dec 2, 2010 11:22 AM in response to Roy 27inch
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    Dec 2, 2010 11:22 AM in response to Roy 27inch
    Hi Roy, I'm not 100% certain, but I think the missing memory maybe that given over to the graphics chip.
  • by Chris CA,

    Chris CA Chris CA Dec 2, 2010 12:36 PM in response to roryobryan
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    Dec 2, 2010 12:36 PM in response to roryobryan
    I think the missing memory

    What "missing memory"?
  • by roryobryan,

    roryobryan roryobryan Dec 2, 2010 1:20 PM in response to Chris CA
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    Dec 2, 2010 1:20 PM in response to Chris CA
    The difference between the total the Roy is seeing in the application and the 256mb in the iPad.
  • by roryobryan,

    roryobryan roryobryan Dec 2, 2010 2:02 PM in response to Chris CA
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    Dec 2, 2010 2:02 PM in response to Chris CA
    I was under the same impression as Roy, that Free, Wired, Active, and Inactive memory accounts for the total amount of system RAM. I'm no expert but the System Memory tab in Activity Monitor on my Mac shows these 4 as a pie chart adding up to the 2GB total I have in my MacBook.

    I understand that iOS doesn't have virtual memory like a mac, and I believe, though as mentioned I'm not 100% certain, that the graphics memory is shared. In which case in iOS the calculation would be Free + Wired + Active + Inactive + Graphics.

    Message was edited by: roryobryan
  • by Roy 27inch,

    Roy 27inch Roy 27inch Dec 6, 2010 1:39 AM in response to Roy 27inch
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    Dec 6, 2010 1:39 AM in response to Roy 27inch
    I think that's it, the graphics! I asked the question, because on my mac I also like to know what applications are heavy and which not. and it has a graphics card with own memory, the iPad hasn't, so there's the gap.
  • by HyperNova Software,

    HyperNova Software HyperNova Software Dec 6, 2010 6:45 AM in response to Roy 27inch
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    Dec 6, 2010 6:45 AM in response to Roy 27inch
    RAM = Random Access Memory.

    So RAM memory is Random Access Memory memory.

    Sorry, feeling a bit obnoxious this morning.

    The other posters are correct in that it's pointless to use an app like that.
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