Adobe flash player needed on iPad

Dec 3, 2010 11:16 AM in response to Prox2332

Not a lot - a huge percentage of the few Mac lockups you get are traced to Adobe Flash.

Try going here - Landrover used vehicle website - a professional site

Join the Flash site - when it stabilises its using 30% of my MacBook CPU's doing nothing - just sitting there. And the fans come on after a few minutes.

Join the HTML site - same content but via HTML and it uses ...... 2%. No fans.

That site is nothing special - when OS3.2 came out the conversations were just as hot and there were examples bandied around with 95% CPU usage just to provide a button menu.

Thats what Flash does - looks good, but ***** in performance. And cramming such a poor piece of programming software into a small handset is never going to work.

Reply

Philly_Phan

Level 7

20,707 points

Dec 3, 2010 11:38 AM in response to Graham Outterside

+"Not a lot - a huge percentage of the few Mac lockups you get are traced to Adobe Flash."+

Flash doesn't cause any problems on mine. It just quits. I haven't checked CPU usage.

Reply

lllaass

Level 10

210,417 points

Dec 3, 2010 11:40 AM in response to Graham Outterside

I used to get frequent (at least once a day) Safari crashes on my Mc desktop with the error message the Flash caused unexpected closure of Safari. The only Flash that were ranning were advertisements. I installed Click to Flash so I could use the few Flash items that I like and that has really eliminated my crashes.

Message was edited by: lllaass

Reply

Dec 3, 2010 11:56 AM in response to stuarto996

stuarto996 wrote:
But when Adobe does, it won't matter; Apple has restricted the use of flash on Apple devices running iOS, and rightly so.

They have restricted Flash as it stands now, but there is no reason to think that if Adobe did produce an acceptable version - albeit unlikely - that Apple would rethink their decision.
After all, if it's for technical reasons as we are told, then if these technical issues were resolved then there would be only political reasons left.

Reply

Dec 3, 2010 12:06 PM in response to igmackenzie

What do you mean by " there would be only political reasons left"

I thought the no flash issue had nothing to do with anything other than performance.

So you're saying political issues are mixed in as well... since by your words once any performance issues were out that political ones would remain?

I'm sorry, but in the typical scope of reality if there are ANY politicaly motivated reasons to ban it, then the political side is at least 95% of the reason we don't have it.

Look at every other political issue in the world, it's always the politics that get in the way of greatness. Not the short comings of ideas or perfomance.

If I was wrong then we would have zero gas cars, zero green house gases and so on. But we don't and the reason is political not perfomance.

Reply

Dec 3, 2010 12:12 PM in response to GeniusWiz

GeniusWiz wrote:
I'm sorry, but in the typical scope of reality if there are ANY politicaly motivated reasons to ban it, then the political side is at least 95% of the reason we don't have it.

Couldn't agree more. However, it is only ever rumoured about motives outside of technical issues. We will never know, except in the case, as I said above, if the technical issues were removed, then we would see something interesting. Anyway, that is pure speculation as it is highly unlikely that Adobe will ever put any effort into making an iOS-acceptable version.

Reply

Dec 6, 2010 6:22 PM in response to Tnaugal

I do like these posts as they leave you so open to the relentless Flash bashing, "you don't ned Flash" HTML5...etc

If you have come from a Windows background you have probably had Flash running with little or no issues for years, Apple say that a high percentage of issues have been attributed to Flash so they decided to stop its use on the iPad.
I have it on my macBook and occasionally Safari does crash, I still use it though for the full web browsing experience I don't like to see blank spaces I feel I'm missing out - rarely are though 🙂

For me Flash and the iPad is not about crashes its about controlling media, I doubt you will see a iPad Flash app even if Adobe made one that never crashed.

Regards,

Reply

Dogcow-Moof

Level 8

36,233 points

Dec 6, 2010 6:30 PM in response to Wilbur507

That's you.

For me whenever Safari crashes or starts using 98%+ of CPU, it's because of Flash.

Flash performance on Mac OS X has been horrible for years, and only recently has Adobe been willing to try doing anything about it.

I can't imagine how long it would take for them to come up with something for iOS.

Reply

Dec 22, 2010 10:11 PM in response to Johnathan Burger

Johnathan Burger wrote:
It is not needed at all.

There have been thousands of other posts about flash, try searching.

How can something be not needed and at the same time have thousands of people asking for it?

It's one or the other.

Reply

nick101

Level 5

5,132 points

Dec 23, 2010 2:12 AM in response to Tnaugal

Try the Skyfire browser

Reply

Dec 23, 2010 9:40 AM in response to GeniusWiz

GeniusWiz wrote:
How can something be not needed and at the same time have thousands of people asking for it?

It's one or the other.

As any parent can tell you, there is a difference between need and want. 😉

Reply

Apr 27, 2011 12:33 PM in response to stuarto996

I just encountered my home email site that would not let me view a video for lack of a Flash Player, so it happens more often than a couple times in a year. I am not a gamer and while Flash may be unstable, what is the alternative?

Reply

May 5, 2011 9:45 AM in response to GeniusWiz

GeniusWiz wrote: How can something be not needed and at the same time have thousands of people asking for it?

...says the windows user... 😁

Reply

Philly_Phan

Level 7

20,707 points

May 8, 2011 8:09 PM in response to IdrisSeabright

Meg St._Clair wrote:

GeniusWiz wrote:
How can something be not needed and at the same time have thousands of people asking for it?

It's one or the other.

As any parent can tell you, there is a difference between need and want. 😉

In that case, no one needs an iPad.

Reply

trilobyte

Level 3

545 points

May 8, 2011 8:24 PM in response to Community User

Based on the results of how Flash has been working on the Android platform (significantly reduced battery life, more crashes, and less secure), I sincerely doubt that Apple is going to reconsider their position anytime soon.

Even Adobe is reworking their site to make video playable on iPads (and iPhones & iPod Touch, etc). My recommendation would be to send feedback to the site you're interested in to let them know you're interested in Flash-free alternatives.

Reply