Garritan Jazz/Big Band and Logic

Hello. I've mostly used Jam Packs with Logic, I'm new to using another player within Logic, Kontakt is what comes with Garritan Jazz and Big Band. The issue I'm having is when you load a multi/ensemble from Kontakt into Logic, I can't seem to control the volumes separately. It seems to show up in the Logic mixer as "Inst 1" -- is this making sense? Sometimes I'm confused by all the tabs/choices in the mixer section too...but that's probably a different issue. Anyway, if you have any thoughts, I'd love to hear them. Thanks. Bob

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Posted on Dec 3, 2010 8:42 PM

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Dec 4, 2010 11:03 AM in response to bwal60

The bottom line is that has been one of Logic's most glaring "missing features" for years, in my book.

The problem stems from the fact that Logic can't separate the channels (or 'channelize') the volume and pan controls for the individual MIDI channels of a multitimbral virtual instrument. By contrast, Logic has no problem doing this with external MIDI modules. And other DAW's - I'm told - have no problem separating the volume commands for individual channels of a virtual instrument. But Logic "Pro" still can not.

So you have to set up a bunch of virtual 'aux' channels, route the various VI channels to the separate AUX's, then control or automate the volume of those aux channels separately from the 'master' VI. Personally I can't believe people don't complain more about what a needlessly awkward workaround this is, all to achieve the same basic functionality we've had in MIDI for almost 20 years now ⚠.

But that's the way it's always been done on Logic, and from the looks of it, there's no reason to expect it to change anytime soon.

Search the forums (or Kontakt's manual or Garritan's site) for info on how to set up numerous auxiliary outs, and that should get you going. There are also numerous tutorials and how-to's on this forum and others, which you can probably find if you search "multitimbral aux".

Lastly, some folks resort to automating volumes within the plugins, ie. adjusting the channel volume sliders on Kontakt's internal mixer while the sequence runs, then editing that automation later in Logic. Again, I think it's a kludgey workaround. But Kludgey Workarounds have always been a big part of the Logic Pro 'experience!'

Enjoy.

Dec 5, 2010 7:47 AM in response to timkertoy

Wow. Thank you for the in depth response. I will search around for help - but the problem my brain has with manuals is getting one program to work in another program. Luckily, for maybe the first time, it sounds like it might be understandable why I don't get it! Thanks for the tips and I will try to figure it out. Is it that Logic doesn't want you to go outside the program for sounds? The problem I might foresee with trying automate from Kontakt is that a lot of stuff I do is theatre music, where you might have a trumpet solo within the big band, then a clarinet etc...and bringing out those moments are almost the last thing I do in the mix. Anyway - I have enough to look at for now! Thanks again.

Dec 5, 2010 9:20 PM in response to Ivan Clarke1

Thanks Ivan - that's something I will look into too. I'm feeling a bit like an old dog new trick kind of guy right now! Would using one instrument at a time from Kontakt be a consideration? Instead of setting up multi's out of Kontakt, to just load them in one instrument at a time into Logic...might be wasting space or something, but would that allow me to mix those instruments from Kontakt as I do with the ones within Logic?

Thanks again.

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