How to change the limit on the "low disk space" warning?

Hi everyone.

I know that, as is the case with many other OSX users, I'm a messy guy as far as keeping order on my hard drives. I often end up wasting all of my free space and then trying to delete things i don't use in panic and panic is not always the best advisor 😉

Additionally, with the advent of SSD drives, one of the core issues is that in order to provide good health and longevity of the drives, you should keep at least 20% free space to ensure proper "load leveling".

Therefore my question is - how can i change the free space limit on my HDD in OSX so that i would get the "low disk space" alert when i hit, eg. 10% or 5GB, and not something like 512MB as it is now (way too low).

Cheers!

iMac 27" 2.8GHz i7 2TB Hitachi w/8GB RAM (2x4GB Hynix), Mac OS X (10.6.5)

Posted on Dec 6, 2010 6:08 AM

Reply
15 replies

Dec 6, 2010 7:51 AM in response to akapod

It is a feature of OSX. Maybe you haven't noticed it yet because you have never gone that low in free disk space? But you know, the problem is that it's set ridiculously low, like 512MB or 256MB. However, i will now search for that TechTool Pro you mentioned, even though i don't like to put rubbish in my RAM to do stuff that the OS is supposed to do on its own.

Dec 7, 2010 5:50 AM in response to jsd2

Guys, thanks for all your answers, but there are two important things about this problem:

1) there is a built-in OSX alert about low disk space on the startup disk, so logic tells me that it can be controlled 🙂 the question is - how?

2) checking the free space in the Finder or in iStat/Dashboard makes no sense, because first of all it requires me to remember about this, which contradicts with the philosophy of Apple, plus there is software like Lightroom or Photoshop or Premiere Pro that may fill up a few gigabytes of free space within a short time.

Please help. It's especially important in case of SSD drive users, because in order to provide good wear leveling, you must keep a big chunk of free space on your SSD drive (there's a good article on the new Kingston V+100 SSD at Anandtech that is driven by the same controller as the flash drive inside the new Macbook Air - it does automatic garbage collection and wear leveling which is really nice unless you don't leave it enough free space to reorganize itself).

Dec 7, 2010 6:07 AM in response to thomas_r.

Thomas, I perfectly understand your point of view and i agree, however, again - i'm a messy user, just like most of us, really. With the new iMacs we have a 1TB and a 2TB drive inside respectively, so we're not worried at all yet 😉 But we did ran out of space on smaller (320-500GB) drives on our previous computers (not to forget that some system/app updates weigh in at >500MB).

Another issue is that we plan to upgrade to SSDs sometime soon, and the recommendation is to keep 20% free space there. In case of a 128GB or 256GB drive that's around 25GB and 50GB free space respectively which, i think, is no-one's definition of "running out of free space". Therefore there must be a way to change that threshold (and i don't mind digging deep down inside the system to change it).

Dec 7, 2010 6:18 AM in response to adamkozlowski79

Thomas, I perfectly understand your point of view and i agree, however, again - i'm a messy user, just like most of us, really.


Doesn't matter. I'm not particularly careful about keeping things clean, and on top of that I'm a fairly serious hobbyist photographer, so I'm constantly adding large files. Even so, I have a large enough hard drive that it will be a while before I have to worry about filling it up. If I had to constantly worry about cleaning off stuff, I'd go nuts, with or without a warning.

Another issue is that we plan to upgrade to SSDs sometime soon


Why? Most people these days are using SSDs because they're new, shiny toys. Yeah, they're faster and use less power, which makes them good for things like the MacBook Air. But unless you're doing things that involve extremely demanding reading and writing from the drive, is that slight increase worth the reduced capacity and more limited lifespan?

Dec 7, 2010 6:38 AM in response to thomas_r.

Actually Thomas, a considerable chunk of my income comes from photography, and we (me & my fiance) specialize in event photojournalism, so after a wedding/conference/festival etc. we end up with huge amounts of files (sometimes even more than 3000 21mp RAW images per day) - if you're not careful enough, you might end up filling your remaining 30-40GB free space within minutes just by downloading all images from the CF cards to the hard drive.

The benefit of SSD is very visible when you work with photos too. I couldn't care less about any other piece of software benefiting from SSD usage, except the one i spend 90% time working in - Adobe Lightroom. And although i have enough RAM now (8GB seems perfect for Lightroom alone, I don't get any page outs) and enough processing power (i7 2.8GHz gets all its 8 cores used by that software), the only bottleneck is the speed of the HDD. The rest of the hardware needs to wait for the HDD and that's frustrating. SSD is the way to go.

Btw, i did some extensive tests running the same library in Lightroom on a Macbook Air 11" (1.4GHz C2D) and on my slower iMac (3.06GHz C2D). The photo-to-photo processing time was faster, much snappier, almost instant on the MBA. Only when it came to the final export of RAW files to JPGs did the iMac show the faster processing and it was not even exactly 3.06/1.4=2.2 times faster, rather only 1.9x. It happens so because the final export depends on the processor, not on the harddrive so much, while skipping from photo to photo requires previews to be read off the HDD.

So, although this became an off-topic discussion now - yes, there are benefits of SSDs for photographers and yes - we need a way to be reminded by the system itself about its health problems 😉

Message was edited by: adamkozlowski79

Dec 7, 2010 7:09 AM in response to adamkozlowski79

I'm not familiar with Lightroom, but if it has some kind of scratch disk or cache like in Photoshop that can be relocated, it may be worthwhile to put that on a separate internal SSD. That scratch space is where the most reads/writes are generated in photo editing software, and thus is where the most savings will be made through the use of a SSD. The problem with a SSD is that, if you're a pro photographer, you'll run out of space fast.

But, in any case, you're right that this has gone off topic. Beyond running some software to periodically monitor free space, though, there's no way I know of to change the threshold for the warning.

Dec 7, 2010 7:23 AM in response to thomas_r.

I work with large audio and video files, and my solution was to get a big RAID drive with an eSATA connection (and an eSATA card for my Mac Pro). RAID and eSATA should eliminate your bottlenecks.

As the iMac doesn't allow for an eSATA expansion card, you would have to resort to more creative options. ( http://blog.fosketts.net/2010/09/07/howto-add-esata-imac/)).

Another alternative would be to get a bigger SSD drive (but I know those don't come cheap).

Dec 7, 2010 7:39 AM in response to adamkozlowski79

With SSDs, you'll see a lot of them used already in PC and Mac (Pro, iMac and MBP), and people keep their SSD to just the OS and apps, not even home folder. No data. And 60GB SSD if plenty for just a boot drive. Sometimes RAID0 of a pair.

It is when you have ONLY one drive, and it is SSD, when you need something larger and for all your needs.

I've used 74GB Raptors and they are plenty, huge, for just system - there are times when burning DVDs where 24GB of free (and unfragmented) space helps.

The old rule of thumb was 10-15-20% free to reduce the threat of the directory not being able to track file segments. The 70% full was for performance, something which SSD isn't affected.

Your 500MB updater is compressed and can expand to 2.5GB, as well as need to write temporarily file versions in the course of writing and updating, so yes 10GB probably is "hitting the wall" on any system drives.

Some things are discovered and learned only by user's experience. Not by some cast in stone rule, but by trial and error.
You may need to insure you don't get down to 100GB free on your 2TB drive I suppose.

You take the added risk of not driving between the white lines and have to take your actions into account if you don't do housekeeping, backups, preventative maintenance.

If you want a quota system, NTFS has one.

http://macperformanceguide.com/SSD-RealWorld.html

Dec 7, 2010 7:51 AM in response to The hatter

Guys, thanks a lot for all your insightful answers, even though we're steering away from the main topic. I'm still looking for some kind of script or a OS mod that would bump the warning threshold on free disk space.

Indeed, having an SSD for the system alone is a nice way of using its potential, however, my subjective view on that is that i don't need my system to boot up faster or Safari/Mail to operate faster - i'm satisfied with the way it is now.

However, as Thomas mentioned before, Lightroom has a cache (a catalog folder with preview cache in it, among other files), which I would plan to move to the SSD drive, for example, by removing the unused SuperDrive and substituting it with a SATA 2.5" caddy/drive bay. Guides on iFixit give a good step-by-step outline how to do it. So instead of risking it all by moving to an SSD-only setup, i'd get just a fast SSD for the Lightroom catalog.

With the Mac Pros, there are awesome options from OCZ (Revo line) for a PCI Express-based flash storage cards that have RAID built in, so they are faster than anything on the market.

This thread has been closed by the system or the community team. You may vote for any posts you find helpful, or search the Community for additional answers.

How to change the limit on the "low disk space" warning?

Welcome to Apple Support Community
A forum where Apple customers help each other with their products. Get started with your Apple Account.