Keith Walsh

Q: MacBook Pro Logic Board Failure

I was using my computer just fine (2007 MBP core 2 duo) all day. Put it to sleep came back after 30 minutes and tried to wake it and it's dead. I held down the power key to shut it down then tried to restart no luck. No start up chime, no screen, keyboard seems dead as well (caps lock light does not light up), HD does not start up. The only signs of life are the white light on the screen latch that is now on, the fans are spinning and the DVD drive seems to work.

Reset the power management module and zapped the PRAM, no luck.

MBP 2007 Core 2 duo 2.2, Mac OS X (10.6.5)

Posted on Dec 7, 2010 7:47 AM

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  • by lenn5,

    lenn5 lenn5 Feb 2, 2013 12:46 PM in response to SeeClarity
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    Feb 2, 2013 12:46 PM in response to SeeClarity

    Glad to hear your MBP is working again!

     

    Since I've gotten a new logicboard in mine I no longer do stuff that really heats up the insides like video encodoing and 3D games. Both of which pushed the temp well over 90C.

  • by Artfulodin,

    Artfulodin Artfulodin Feb 2, 2013 4:11 PM in response to Keith Walsh
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    Feb 2, 2013 4:11 PM in response to Keith Walsh

    I completely agree. No more 3D gaming for me. Reflowed the GPU a 3rd time already. When it goes again, I'm going to reballing the GPU. Maybe good for another 4 years. Beauty does come at a price!

  • by Poikkeus,

    Poikkeus Poikkeus Feb 2, 2013 4:38 PM in response to Artfulodin
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    Feb 2, 2013 4:38 PM in response to Artfulodin

    You won't find wiser words on any forum or sub-forum. Users who reduce heat levels on their MB rarely have logic board problems; users with extreme temperatures (90º) frequently do.

     

    Problem is - people love gaming (and who can blame them?). But it can come at a price.

     

    http://logicboardmac.blogspot.com

  • by macssam,

    macssam macssam Feb 3, 2013 12:08 AM in response to Poikkeus
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    Feb 3, 2013 12:08 AM in response to Poikkeus

    I never played a virtual game since the beginning of personal computers

    my MBP died after 13 months

    youtube and even surfing will already destruct a mac

    all the fan applications are useless

    consider regular cleaning or even moving to a cold country

  • by Anic264b,

    Anic264b Anic264b Feb 3, 2013 4:20 AM in response to macssam
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    Feb 3, 2013 4:20 AM in response to macssam

    macssam wrote:

    consider regular cleaning or even moving to a cold country

    … or already being in such a country… done…

    But my MBP fried anyway…

  • by lenn5,

    lenn5 lenn5 Feb 3, 2013 9:46 AM in response to Anic264b
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    Feb 3, 2013 9:46 AM in response to Anic264b

    I'm hoping that when Apple replaced my logicboard they also cleaned out the fans and exhaust vents. When I installed an SSD in my MBP a couple years ago there was quite a bit of dust in there. Blew some of it out with compressed air but is hard to clean those tiny fans.

  • by TYDYsails,

    TYDYsails TYDYsails Feb 5, 2013 5:28 AM in response to Keith Walsh
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    Feb 5, 2013 5:28 AM in response to Keith Walsh

    Dear All

     

    You might find the following link useful, particularly if you live in the UK. I wish I had seen this before paying out £450 for a refurbished board!

     

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Apple-Macbook-Pro-A1226-A1260-A1229-A1261-Nvidia-Logic -Board-Repair-New-GPU-/300633277036

     

    TY

  • by JohnH2244,

    JohnH2244 JohnH2244 Feb 13, 2013 2:03 PM in response to Keith Walsh
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    Feb 13, 2013 2:03 PM in response to Keith Walsh

    I was recently able to get my Logic Board serviced free of charge even though it was out of warranty.  My MacBook Pro was not able to boot.  It took me 2 Apple Store visits, and 2 conversations to Apple Support before they finally agreed to do the repair.  Just wanted to post a story of positivity because I've read all the messages on this topic, and there aren't very many success stories.  Be persistent and even though you can't prove it's the nVidia Card, they can't prove it's not.  And if these faulty cards were recalled, your computer most likely wouldn't have died as a result of it.  This is an issue that is affecting more people than you or apple probably even realizes.  Good luck.

  • by Sabaka1,

    Sabaka1 Sabaka1 Feb 13, 2013 3:12 PM in response to Keith Walsh
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    Feb 13, 2013 3:12 PM in response to Keith Walsh

    I don't know if this is a  reply or continuation of a gripe against Apple. My MBA is out of warranty for less than a  year when I experienced constant fan noise and periodic stuttering of programs and mouse pointer. After awhile, I took it to the Genius Bar (yeah right), thinking I had a virus of sorts,  they deleted everything and uploaded a new OS which they thought would solve the problem, it didn't. Then they kept it overnight for diagnostics and discovered the logic board problem. Replacement cost approx. 7-800 bucks. That's one third the cost of the computer. Nobody else had logic board failures except Apple. I have an older Dell laptop that's been through **** and back and it runs fine. The Mac did not have that many hours on it when it began to fail. I personally believe it is a manufacturing or engineering defect.  When they put all the combined electronics into such a small package didn't they think there was going to be a heat issue? I'm sure they did but not to the extent they should have. The electronics heat up, the fan kicks in, electronics cool down. How many cycles do you think the electronics can endure before the expansion and contraction of electronic component cause something to fail?

    I have not submitted my Mac for repair because they will not give me the old logic board so that I can have it analyzed to see what electronic component cause the malfunction.  I get my used parts returned when my car is repaired, but I can’t have an electronic component returned?  I believe by not returning the “damaged” parts is a way Apple covers its butt to prevent a product liability law suit. I want to keep track of how many logic board failures there are for my endeavor. From what I have been reading, there are hundreds of logic board failures, more than Apple is willing to admit. Just look at all the automobile recalls that have popped up recently; some recalled autos go back years. I believe the logic board should also be recalled or repaired free of charge.

  • by Dino1956,

    Dino1956 Dino1956 Feb 14, 2013 5:10 PM in response to JohnH2244
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    Feb 14, 2013 5:10 PM in response to JohnH2244

    johnH2244, Was your MBP under 4 Years Old? Glad to hear you got yours fixed. Thanks.

  • by gec666,

    gec666 gec666 Feb 15, 2013 5:01 PM in response to Keith Walsh
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    Feb 15, 2013 5:01 PM in response to Keith Walsh

    I've decided to let Apple reapir/replace the logic board FREE of charge (qouted $1500 + labour  ***!!!!!).

    I was holding out because I had no confidence that what they were going to repair/replace would have the same defect as the original. It turns out Apple have no idea either.

    After originally rejecting my claim for warranty (bought May 2008, failed Nov 2012, and no apple care warranty).

    Even my customer service rep was unable to find out from Apple's own tech department if the logic board/Nvidia chip defect has been fixed by a logic board revision.... We will see what, if any thing happens if it fails again.

    GOOD LUCK!!

  • by James Hunt4,

    James Hunt4 James Hunt4 Feb 16, 2013 1:56 PM in response to Keith Walsh
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    Feb 16, 2013 1:56 PM in response to Keith Walsh

    Just experienced what sounds like the same issue. Early 2008 MBP was asleep, failed to wake, held down power button - no chime, fans and optical drive start then all stops before booting. Visit to the genius bar today, tried it with a different power cable - same result - 'it's your logic board, £425 to replace it'.

    That isn't an option for me at the moment so hope adding my voice here will add to the weight of evidence that there is a problem with this model.

    Thinking my next computer will be another manufacturers' hardware turned into a hackintosh - can't justify paying for apple design if it doesn't have the stamina, which sadly seems to be the case.

  • by Shootist007,

    Shootist007 Shootist007 Feb 16, 2013 2:32 PM in response to James Hunt4
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    Feb 16, 2013 2:32 PM in response to James Hunt4

    Apple Already knows there is a problem. They discovered it back in late 2008 and they did basically nothing. They put in place a 4 year from purchase date warranty along with the system having to be able to boot so they could run a test and get a code. If the code came back it was the NVidia problem they replaced the logic board with the same model with the same graphics chip on it. If the system could boot or the code did come back Nvida problem they would not fix it. Then the 4 years ran out and now they will do Absolutely Nothing for you.

    James Hunt4 wrote:

     

    Just experienced what sounds like the same issue. Early 2008 MBP was asleep, failed to wake, held down power button - no chime, fans and optical drive start then all stops before booting. Visit to the genius bar today, tried it with a different power cable - same result - 'it's your logic board, £425 to replace it'.

    That isn't an option for me at the moment so hope adding my voice here will add to the weight of evidence that there is a problem with this model.

    Thinking my next computer will be another manufacturers' hardware turned into a hackintosh - can't justify paying for apple design if it doesn't have the stamina, which sadly seems to be the case.

  • by James Hunt4,

    James Hunt4 James Hunt4 Feb 16, 2013 2:55 PM in response to Shootist007
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    Feb 16, 2013 2:55 PM in response to Shootist007

    Shame the company were not proactive in informing their customers who had purchased these products that they were liable to fail. That's two out of three macs that have died on me so think it's time to call it quits.

  • by Shootist007,

    Shootist007 Shootist007 Feb 16, 2013 2:57 PM in response to James Hunt4
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    Feb 16, 2013 2:57 PM in response to James Hunt4

    I agree. I have bought my last Apple product.

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