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MacBook Pro Logic Board Failure

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  • poikkeus1 Level 3 Level 3 (955 points)
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    Mar 4, 2013 9:04 PM (in response to Thorador)

    Bear grabber,

     

    Sadly, Apple doesn't provide any user education re: fan utilities. At the risk of suggesting information you're only now aware of, iStat Menus is my preferred software for monitoring my system, though there's a free iStat that works in a different way. And I religiously use Fan Control to keep my temperature under 140F. And I recently got a free Cooler Master through a rebate.

     

    Thing is, unless users become educated on heat issues, they can count on continued logic board and graphics board failures. Apple could be more upfront about the issue, but even mentioning it opens the door to a loss in sales and possible litigation. It's ultimately up to the user.

     

    This information is like a bible:

    http://logicboardmac.blogspot.com

     

    Thorador,

     

    If a genius suggested that a fan control utiliity may void the warranty - then he's no genius.

  • Anic264b Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
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    Mar 5, 2013 12:14 AM (in response to poikkeus1)

    poikkeus1 wrote:

     

    Apple could be more upfront about the issue, but even mentioning it opens the door to a loss in sales and possible litigation. It's ultimately up to the user.

    Yes, money is a bad thing for just this reason.

  • lenn5 Level 4 Level 4 (2,530 points)
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    Mar 5, 2013 11:09 AM (in response to poikkeus1)

    SInce I've gotten my  logic board in my early 2008 MBP replaced I don't do anything like encoding video on it anymore. I use my 2006 iMacCore Duo for that stuff even though it's slower than my MBP.

  • daddeo2 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Mar 5, 2013 3:58 PM (in response to lenn5)

    Wow... it  appears that a lot of posts are getting deleted... But To add the the deal about Apple only supposed to last 1 to 2 years, (I was told that by the Canadian regional manager in Toronto; He said his iphone lasts about 18 months, which is "normal" for an Iphone), I am still using my Amiga 3000, without a glich. I bought it in 1989. It was fully loaded when I bought it, 50mb hard drvie, 2mb of ram, 2 mb video ram, Gen lock and  video toaster. Still the thing works great!  I paid 5,000 when it was new, but amortize that over the past 24 years.. and it was cheap!!!

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,455 points)
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    Mar 5, 2013 5:31 PM (in response to macssam)

    macssam wrote:

     

    we the users are apple

  • vince1008 Calculating status...
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    Mar 5, 2013 7:49 PM (in response to Csound1)

    Great news! Apple replaced my logic board on my 2008 MBP and paid for it. I ended up going up (not the first level) through the Applecare line and ended up speaking to someone who sympathzed with my experience and so had the Apple store cover my repair ($600). So far so good, but I fully intend to not do anything that may cause it to run hot (I didn' do anything that I was aware of before so this could be tricky....)

  • Anic264b Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
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    Mar 6, 2013 12:11 AM (in response to daddeo2)

    I've bought an iPhone 3G (in 2009, I believe); since then, I gave it to my mother. She's still happily using it, albeit it's a bit slow (and the iOS version is limited). The battery could be changed, but it lasts several hours (in airplane mode).

    I can't guess how it could “break” (to be unusable), except if the battery stops functioning.

  • Thorador Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Mar 6, 2013 8:21 AM (in response to daddeo2)

    I buy a commodore 128d computer which is an all in one computer no screen. The video still works without a glitch. 1984 computer. So that is 29 years. No logic board or video chip faliure. The Mac book fail within a week. The replaced logic board is failing again. So this is not ok. The hard disk fail in 1.5 years time. It was a toshiba drive. I gone a whole year with it getting intermitent freezes. Genius bar asociates solution was to reinstal my OS every week for a year before it failed. Apple had me reinstal and moving 500 gigs of information back on my makbook on a weekley basis while in school. I was using virtual machines and all to test computer forensics situations. This was bad for me. Apple needs to take some responsibility for this. Deleting of posts is not it.

  • Thorador Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Mar 6, 2013 8:33 AM (in response to poikkeus1)

    poikkeus1 wrote:

     

    Bear grabber,

     

    Sadly, Apple doesn't provide any user education re: fan utilities. At the risk of suggesting information you're only now aware of, iStat Menus is my preferred software for monitoring my system, though there's a free iStat that works in a different way. And I religiously use Fan Control to keep my temperature under 140F. And I recently got a free Cooler Master through a rebate.

     

    Thing is, unless users become educated on heat issues, they can count on continued logic board and graphics board failures. Apple could be more upfront about the issue, but even mentioning it opens the door to a loss in sales and possible litigation. It's ultimately up to the user.

     

    This information is like a bible:

    http://logicboardmac.blogspot.com

     

    Thorador,

     

    If a genius suggested that a fan control utiliity may void the warranty - then he's no genius.

    Education is not needed. I think this is an intel and board manufacturing and engineering fault. You should not have to worry about you fans kiking in. This is the fault of green push. You want to save what $4 dollars a year by not spining a fan constantly and risking a sometimes 600 to 1000 dollar part. This is luticrase. A fan can spin constant for 10 years or more. Never breaks. I bought an old cisco router and the fan still spins. This is an equipment that was in a company phone system. It is a 2500 voice router. Been in service since circa 2000. This is over 10 years of service and the fan never quit. Mind you a router is up 24 7 365. No reason for the fan to not spin all the time as it should the other issue is why the 22 nanometer part dont get components spaced out a little more to prevent access heat. I looked at a mac pro that is built on 32 nano tech. It only runs at 30 celsius and the fan spins at 500 rpm constant. My macbooks fan spins at 2000 and the temps at 98 to 120 celsius. And I am built at 22. Something is wrong here. Mind you the mac pro has more power. Laptops are always a step down. I know things are more packed but still 3 and 4 times the temps. I looked inside there is space for the cpu to be bigger. Made a mistak wanting to small. I think the sweet spot was at 32 nano. These new smaller are heat tragedies. Hopefully the 14 and 10 or 8 nano will fix the heat issues. I wish there was a spot where you don't even need a fan anymore.

  • Thorador Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Mar 6, 2013 8:44 AM (in response to Thorador)

    Adding that apple claims 8 hours of battery live and your cpu gets fried in the proces and of course it is your fault. You wanted long battery use. Increase of battery life through battery technology is so much more of imposibility or research money issue. It is easier to cheat. Blankiong the screen every second. You just turn to answer the phone and your makbook goes blank. To weak it up takes 30 seconds while your video switches bleu blank and back to screen even though you are on the same monitor. What a genious solution. Bravo.

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,455 points)
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    Mar 6, 2013 8:48 AM (in response to Thorador)

    Nothing you state has happened to any of the Macs I own or manage, I can only assume that you are the unluckiest Mac owner of the day.

  • Thorador Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Mar 6, 2013 8:53 AM (in response to Csound1)

    I do not believe in luck. I believe in statistics. Out of 3 mac books 3 had heat and graphics issues. So there. Also before I buy the laptop. I took 3 27 inch iMacs back to the store with various manufacturing defacts. Warped screen plastic covers to the same graphics blank out issues. So no I am nut unlucky. For the deck is stacked against you when there are large number of faliures. It is hard to pick a working one and if you shoot for perfect you realy need luck for that. I been disabused of the idea of perfection and that is Apples fault for teaching me to live with unfunctional products that cust me an arm and a leg.

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,455 points)
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    Mar 6, 2013 9:02 AM (in response to Thorador)

    Thorador wrote:

     

    I do not believe in luck. I believe in statistics. Out of 3 mac books 3 had heat and graphics issues.

    That's 3 out of many millions ......

     

    Statistics giving you a math issue?

  • Anic264b Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
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    Mar 6, 2013 9:56 AM (in response to Csound1)

    Why don't you count the other people who also complain? That makes a bunch more.

  • Csound1 Level 7 Level 7 (32,455 points)
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    Mar 6, 2013 9:59 AM (in response to Anic264b)

    Anic264b wrote:

     

    Why don't you count the other people who also complain? That makes a bunch more.

    Millions?

     

    Please, this is not a fantasy world, but behaving as if it is fixes nothing.

     

    If you wish to contribute do better than 'a bunch more' (is a bunch more or less than a heap, how many bunches in a s**tload?)

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