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Buying an Apple Computer from Mac Mall
The worst computer buying experience ever!

After two months of trying to decide which laptop I wanted to purchase, I finally decided to spare no expense and get the best possible computer money can buy, the new Apple 15” Powerbook widescreen. This was the first time in my life I had ever decided to spoil myself with such a luxurious item. So when I dished out $2,212.99, I did not expect to spend anytime trying to make it work.
When I first received the Powerbook, I noticed something odd. When I plugged in the power cable it was green, not orange. I continued to set up the computer thinking that the battery had been fully charged prior to shipping. After I set it up I pulled the power adapter to start surfing wirelessly and immediately it died on me. That’s when I knew there was a serious problem. The percentage of the battery charge did not move from 0%. I felt it was not just a bad battery but also a bad circuit somewhere. Otherwise the power adapter would have turned orange when the uncharged battery was plugged in. Anyhow, I called MacMall to inform them of my disappointment. After speaking to their tech department I was convinced to call Apple Care. It was after business hours so I did some troubleshooting myself. I reseated the battery, erased the hard drive, and reinstalled the OS. The next morning I called Apple Care. This needs it’s own paragraph.
Apple Care has lost its flair! What was once a great customer support center has been downgraded to a bunch of minimum wage screen readers who seem to know nothing more than the protocol for fixing a computer by reading information off of a screen. There was no common sense being used. After navigating through the automated operator’s menus and being on hold for 15 min I was asked to provide my serial number. When I did they had a problem recognizing it as a qualified computer. So I was put on hold for 20 minutes while they figured that out. Finally, I explained the diagnosis I made above. I was told to reset the PMU and I did. Immediately after I was rushed off the phone with a case number and told to call back if the problem persist. Duh, I can just look at the percentage now and tell you its still at 0% you did not fix the problem. Not to mention that I will later find out that the problem I have is a known problem and the tech didn’t inform me of that either. So now that I am infuriated. I decided to call MacMall and let them know that I just talked to an idiot and I am taking the computer to an Apple store. They agreed that would be the best thing to do. I also had my sales representative email me all of my rebate forms, as they were not coming up online.
So I drove 10 miles through Miami’s traffic to the Apple Store. When I got to the genius bar I thought I was finally at the end of this journey only to find out 1) it would take at least seven days to fix the problem 2) they would be opening my brand new Mac and replacing a circuit board 3) the problem is a known problem and MacMall sends all of their customers to the Apple Store. So here I am and now the only way I can truly obtain a new computer is to go back to MacMall… You only have to send me in a circle one time for me to feel like an idiot. So I called AMEX and launched an investigation on MacMall. By this time I had already wasted a day and I did not feel like being misdirected again. If MacMall would have informed me that there is a known battery problem with the new Powerbook 15” widescreen in the first place, I would have gladly sent it back for a replacement.
Oh and yet another great surprise… I just found out they forgot to engrave my girl friends ipod, her Christmas gift. Thanks MacMall !

Powerbook 15" widescreen, Mac OS X (10.4.3), bad battery circuit

Posted on Dec 13, 2005 1:03 PM

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Dec 25, 2005 10:55 PM in response to Nikodon

How is it that a brand new $2k PowerBook can be shipped (1) by Apple and (2) by MacMall with a defective battery/charging circuit? What EVER happened to QUALITY CONTROL?

The main difference between your experience and mine is that I was forced to replace a PB that was approximately 18 months old due to a "bad logic board - and, oh yes, bad boards on the left side of the computer (for NO apparent reason)." So I pondered the choices: continue college using a PC, replace the PB with a new PB, or replace the PB with a desktop model. I decided to comtinue with a PB since it is designed for portability.

It arrived (from MacMall) with a DEAD battery! It will NOT charge...
A. After 6+ hours the AC connector to the PB is green and has always been green, indicating that it is not charging.
B. The battery power/charge status on the bottom (5 lights) has NO lights coming on when the button is depressed.
C. Checking the battery status on the computer shows that it is charged to 1% after these 6+ hours of being plugged into the AC (NOT charging).

Considering all of the complaints about the battery charge/no charge problem at Apple Discussions, how is it that a brand new PowerBook was shipped withOUT verifying that the battery was operational?

More importantly, what is being done about this problem so that PBs won't continue to be shipped with defective parts (charging circuits)?

And lastly, what does it take to REALLY fix the PB so that it can be made to function free of an AC socket? When classes resume, will I have a functioning PowerBook that can go to classes?

Evidently, if the root of the problem IS a defective circuit board, asking MacMall to replace the battery will have NO result. And using the battery from the PB with the failed logic board will only result in a dead battery as it loses its charge (and won't be recharged in the NEW PB).

Lastly, does ANYone out there know for a fact that the charging circuit is the culprit?

Dec 29, 2005 10:11 PM in response to Nikodon

My e-mail to the sales person at MacMall has NOT been answered as to their sending a new battery for my PB. Gutless! I will have to speak to a supervisor. If anyone has a suggestion as to this approach, I would like to hear it. Or if you know to whom I should address a complaint letter, please advise.

New PB with defective (unchargeable) battery has Serial No. W8542xxxxx, so serial number ranges may not be that important. The first battery showed capacity of 4646 mAh. The second battery (chargeable) showed only 4300 mAh capacity. The good battery from the previous PB ('dead' due to defective logic board and related circuits) works as well in the new PB, just not as long as the new battery.

The GOOD news is that the two people I spoke with at Apple (12:30 PM Tuesday) were polite, knowledgeable AND helpful. Since I am not too far from the Apple Authorized Repair Center, I wanted to get the new battery from them, IF that was possible. This necessitated the second call to the 800 number - to give them my credit card number so they would send a new battery since the store did not have any new batteries. The only complaint I have is that the person on the phone asked if I was 'William', was corrected, but the battery arrived addressed to William! And it arrived the NEXT morning (Wednesday)!

The BAD(?) news is that as the new battery charged (both for the first time and then later during the 'calibration' process),
(1) the green light ring at the AC Adaptor plug remains green (I thought it was supposed to turn amber whenever it was charging);
(2) the five battery status lights on the battery are lit while the AC Adaptor is plugged into the computer. They go out after 5 seconds when the Adaptor plug is disconnected.

For these two reasons, I suppose I will have to make another call to Apple.

Has anyone else experienced either of these problems with the adaptor or battery lights?

Jan 10, 2006 8:31 PM in response to Leon Smith

Do you want fries with that?! They'll taste good, but they'll leave you feeling unsatisfied...

My experience was much the same. I place a Web order with MacMall. A salesperson calls me up immediately: Don't you want the extra RAM, a printer, a wireless router, a shoulder bag? Sure.

The computer arrived the next day with a dead battery. I had to buy another one locally just to use my computer, because no one -- not that salesperson who called me, not anyone else on the sales staff, not anyone who would read the negative feedback I left -- ever responded.

Lesson learned.

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