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1930's 40's family footage. Best format for FCP?

I apologize in advance for what are probably rudimentary questions...

Short of the long, a family member paid to have a treasure trove of old family films that were shot by my Great Grandfather in the late 1930's and into the early 1960's. They were filmed on 16mm and 8mm, which were transfered to avi's. Some of the earliest stuff was even shot in color!

Anyway, the job of putting these on dvd has been bestowed onto me. Believe me I'm not complaining. But one of the questions I am running into is what would the proper file format be to convert all the digital files into?

Like I said they are avi's. No audio. In Compressor they read like this - Encoded bounds 720x480 Display 640x480 NTSC FR 29.97. There is probably around three hours of film. Pretty much all I'm going to do for this first round of dvds is do some minor editing in FCP such as slow the frame rate, slight color adjustments, add period music, titles, etc., then export to dvdpro.

And speaking of color adjustments, anybody have any experience in color adjusting old bw film? If so I'm all ears.(eyes)

Obviously, I don't want to screw this treasure trove up. It's just that I don't have any experience working with files like these. I would greatly appreciate any advice or suggestions in how to handle files of this type. Anybody else have experience with doing a project like this?

Thank you in advance!

Posted on Dec 16, 2010 9:25 PM

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Posted on Dec 17, 2010 6:25 AM

convert the avi's to Quicktime/ ProRes LT. This will give you an good format for editing. You can then use 3 way color corrector on each of the clips. Start with adjusting the white balance and work from there. Send to Compressor, best quality xx minutes. Import the resulting 2 files (audio and video) into DVD studio and burn as usual.
--Bob
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Dec 17, 2010 6:25 AM in response to Roxcar

convert the avi's to Quicktime/ ProRes LT. This will give you an good format for editing. You can then use 3 way color corrector on each of the clips. Start with adjusting the white balance and work from there. Send to Compressor, best quality xx minutes. Import the resulting 2 files (audio and video) into DVD studio and burn as usual.
--Bob

Dec 17, 2010 12:58 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

Sure, convert in Compressor. Slower but better.


Tom,
despite its relatively simple interface Compressor is a rather powerful software and defining it "slower" is a bit generic and misleading (I am not doubting your personal experience with the software I am only saying that one's experience is subjective)), since speed in compression is also down to the way the software is used for each specific task.

Compressor and MPGEGstreamclip use both QT engine, however, as you know Compressor with QMaster can exploit the best of a given machine CPU power.

That is probably one of the "better" parts people may want to know "better" about Compressor. The other is the wealth of customization settings and features that this little amazing application comes with (that is probably the part you were referring to when you said better).

I am only posting this because understanding, appreciation and eventually enjoyment of this Apple application is still relatively rare:-)

Dec 17, 2010 10:10 PM in response to 2reverb

I downloaded and have been trying out Streamclip today to learn the interface. What an impressive piece of free software! Incredibly handy and worked like a charm. Thanks for the suggestion!

However, since using both Streamclip and Compressor I am left with a question or two. After reading the previous comments about conversion speed/time regarding streamclip vs compressor, I decided to run a little comparison test myself. My results are by no means scientific. I make no claim for that. All I did was load the same avi into each separate program and hit enter while touching the start button on the stopwatch app on my phone. I didn't run them simultaneously, but one after the other.

The results? Well, I'm not sure. After going through the settings on each program with a fine tooth comb to be sure they were as identical as I could tell, Compressor was faster. The setting that was used on both programs was Apple ProRes 422 (LT), 720 x 480 NTSCDV, bottom field first. Audio was disabled on both.

Again, these are unscientific. More like Mythbusters results...

Original avi is 2.12gb
Compressor converted to mov in 5:39 with a file size of 1.91gb
Streamclip converted to mov in 6:58 with a file size of 1.94gb

So, I think you might guess my next question. Is the difference in file size, as it pertains to these type of files, something to be concerned about?

I don't mean to start a huge debate or anything, I just find this result pretty interesting. If it matters I'm working on a MBP 2.53 GHz, 4g ram, os 10.5.8 (i know, i should upgrade)

If anyone has any questions about settings, etc., just ask. I'm curious too!

Thanks!

1930's 40's family footage. Best format for FCP?

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