Copy files to iTunes media.......what do you suggest?

Friends,
I've recently deselected the option *copy files to itunes media*.
I have more than 1 tera files and you understand how much space on disks I need to do that.
Still.....
I realized having your files outside the itunes folder is a real mess.
Yes, you spare space.
But you can't move a single cobblestone in your drive, unless you want iTunes to get lost and be unable to find songs.
Having all my files in my hard drive, instead, should actually have the advantage of keeping my stuff organized the way I want to.
If tomorrow I want to create a new jazz folder, I might do that,I mean.
But if my jazz songs were not there, iTunes won't find them aymore.
I thought at least playlists understood where they have to find their songs, but nada, nothing, nil...

I'm thinking of buying another big external drive, tell iTunes to copy my files and move my stuff as I want.

What do you suggest?
Keeping my songs where I save them without touching them anymore or having files where I want to since iTunes has already copied in his directory?

Thanks for any suggestion!!!
^_^

Beppe

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Posted on Dec 24, 2010 10:36 AM

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Dec 24, 2010 11:03 AM in response to beppe1968

The disadvantage is that when iTunes copies files, it uses its Artist/Album scheme, with no option to do differently. That makes it clumsy to keep folders the way you want them (e.g. the "jazz" folder in your example).

On the other hand, when it is time to move your library to a new computer, any scheme other than having the whole thing in a single iTunes folder will give you a big problem, unless you want to re-do your library, ratings, and playlists from scratch.

Personally, I use the copy option, but not the "Keep organized..." option.

Dec 25, 2010 2:58 AM in response to ed2345

thanks for the answer, my friend!
^_^
but, hey, hold on!
1. *The disadvantage is that when iTunes copies files, it uses its Artist/Album scheme, with no option to do differently. That makes it clumsy to keep folders the way you want them (e.g. the "jazz" folder in your example). *

iTunes does so in its folder.
But in my folders I keep moving files as much as I want, without making any changes to iTunes library and without having problems with it (the library) finding my files.
Am I wrong?
That's why I'd want to get back to having 2 separate music places.
(one for me, one for iTunes)

2.
*Personally, I use the copy option, but not the "Keep organized..." option. *

Maybe this will solve my problem.
I'd never thought about that.
Do you mean that if I don't tick this option iTunes find the files wherever I move them?
So I can change the location of an album and iTunes still finds it where it is?
Even if I haven't copied files into iTunes library?

Thanks again for the answer!!!

Beppe



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Dec 25, 2010 6:51 AM in response to beppe1968

beppe1968 wrote:
1. *The disadvantage is that when iTunes copies files, it uses its Artist/Album scheme, with no option to do differently. That makes it clumsy to keep folders the way you want them (e.g. the "jazz" folder in your example). *

iTunes does so in its folder.
But in my folders I keep moving files as much as I want, without making any changes to iTunes library and without having problems with it (the library) finding my files.
Am I wrong?
That's why I'd want to get back to having 2 separate music places.
(one for me, one for iTunes)


Interesting thought. Yes, you can certainly keep two separate libraries, and use "your" library only with a player other than iTunes.

2.
*Personally, I use the copy option, but not the "Keep organized..." option. *

Maybe this will solve my problem.
I'd never thought about that.
Do you mean that if I don't tick this option iTunes find the files wherever I move them?
So I can change the location of an album and iTunes still finds it where it is?
Even if I haven't copied files into iTunes library?


No, it does not mean that. iTunes does not have a "folder watch" capability. If you add new files they will sit there and will not get added to the iTunes library until something triggers them to be added, either a manual action or a 3rd party program such as iTunes Folder Watch.

Dec 25, 2010 9:51 AM in response to ed2345

ok, thanks.
So if I don't get any different suggestion, I'll choose the oprion 2 HDs, 1 for my music and 1 for iTunes.
Then again 2 hardrives aren't that bad, here on my desk!!!
^_^

Allow me 1 last question:
if selecting the option *let iTunes organize....* does not imply iTunes finds the tracks wherever they are, what sense does it make not using it?
How does iTunes set the files if you don't tick that option???
Does it do something better/different than putting files in an infinite list of alphabetical artists as it does when you use that option?

Thanks!

Beppe

Dec 25, 2010 10:09 AM in response to beppe1968

beppe1968 wrote:
ok, thanks.
So if I don't get any different suggestion, I'll choose the oprion 2 HDs, 1 for my music and 1 for iTunes.


Up to you of course, but iTunes is really only there for you to play music. It does not need its own music!

if selecting the option *let iTunes organize....* does not imply iTunes finds the tracks wherever they are, what sense does it make not using it?


"Keep... organized" has nothing to do with folder watching. What it does is to modify the files and folders to account for any changes that you make to the tag information. If the file is not already in the iTunes library, iTunes takes no action.

Dec 25, 2010 3:51 PM in response to ed2345

My friend, I'm really grateful for your answers.
But if you tell me *iTunes doesn't need ITS OWN MUSIC* I think I haven't explained myself very well so I'll try to tell you once again what my problem is.
I'm sorry if I'm slow to understand and I wouldn't exploit your availability.
I'll promise this is my last attempt then either I understand or I won't bother you anymore.
^_^

My initial problem wasn't whether I *have or don't have to* give iTunes my files.
I do know that once you say *add folder to the library* iTunes does it all on its own and doesn't need *additional operations*.
My problem was (is) whether it is more or less convenient having music files in one position and iTunes library files in another (double files).

I'll oversimplify:
I have 3 albums; Beatles ONE, Beethoven's Fifth and Coltrane's Love Supreme.
In a folder in C: called *Music Room*.
Ok?

I open a brand new virginal iTunes and tell it:
*copy folder to iTunes library* and point to C:Music Room.
(copy files option is unselected)

Now I have my 3 albums in iTunes perfectly ordered, with covers and all.
The physical files are not in the iTunes media folder but they’re neat and clean in my *music room* folder.
Perfect.
No need to copy files into iTunes media, as you said, iTunes doesn’t need them.
Perfect.

But then I feel like buying more music.
I’ll buy some Dylan and some Neil Young.
So now I have Dylan, Young, Beatles, Coltrane and Beethoven but I don’t want to mix them all up, so I create 3 subfolders in my music room called rock jazz and classical.
I import Dylan and Young into iTunes, I connect my iPod and load it.
But surprise! Beatles, Coltrane and Beethoven are not listenable from the iTunes program (exclamation marks spotted!!!) because (obviously!) iTunes doesn’t see them anymore as I changed the folder’s name.

I only need to reimport *all files*, I know.
But if you take my real situation (300 gigas of music, 70K songs, 10K albums) you will understand in my case reimporting all my library everytime I change a folder’s name, I create a subfolder, I move a song from one place to another is rather boring.
Telling iTunes to copy files into *its own* directory could give me, on the contrary, the advantage of having my iTunes library indipendent from my *real files*.
If iTunes has copied all my songs into its own itunes media folder, if I change whatever I want in my *music room* (do you still remember? XD) nothing changes, doesn’t it?

And here we are to the original question:
Option A)
iTunes doesn’t copy files: I spare space but I must get used not to change anything once I’ve imported files into iTunes library.
Option B)
iTunes copies files: I need double space (2 HDs, possibly); but I can do everything with my music room; once imported all into iTunes library, iTunes works regardless of what I do with the original files.
So:
what do you suggest?

If you’ve come so far, I really thank you.
If you’re even answering again, I’ll vote for you in the next elections.

Beppe

www.giuseppegazerro.com
www.youtube.com/GiuseppeGazerro

Dec 25, 2010 5:22 PM in response to beppe1968

iTunes only needs one copy of each file. if you wish to have a separate copy, that is fine too.

To see which copy iTunes is using, right-click the entry in the iTunes library, and click Show in Explorer.

Once iTunes is linked to a file, do not move it, or change the filename or the name of any containing folder. Doing so causes iTunes to lose it.

If you have a second copy of the file, in your Music Room folder, of course you can change it as much as you want without affecting iTunes.

I hope this helps. Merry Christmas!

Dec 26, 2010 5:36 AM in response to ed2345

Solved.

....unfortunately....ehhehhe.....meaning that I hoped there were some way to have iTunes get its songs wherever I put them, change folders and reorganize things.
On the contrary, this is possibile only if I let iTunes copy files into its media folder.
Crystal clear.

I'll buy a new hard drive and have my music separated from the iTunes stuff.

Thanks a lot, friend.
You've been very patient and helpful.

Beppe

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