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The Dvorak keyboard doesn't work

4997 Views 11 Replies Latest reply: May 6, 2012 8:02 PM by tulrich RSS
shroudlupe Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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Dec 31, 2010 2:46 PM
I set my setting as dvorak but it doesn't work, the keyboard is still normal.
MacBook Pro 15 inch (bought in 2010), Mac OS X (10.6.4)
  • Matthew Smith Level 5 Level 5 (6,780 points)
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    Dec 31, 2010 2:51 PM (in response to shroudlupe)
    If you are using iOS 4 you will notice there are two parts to the keyboards: Software Keyboard Layout and Hardware Keyboard Layout. Dvorak is only mentioned under Hardware Keyboard Layout. This section applies to a physical keyboard that is connected to your iPhone, most easily done via Bluetooth.
    MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.4), iPod nano 6G, iPhone 4, Apple TV
  • Ray Chang TW Calculating status...
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    Jan 10, 2011 3:58 AM (in response to shroudlupe)
    I bought an Apple Bluetooth keyboard and it worked fine for typing using Dvorak. Then today I connected it again and it kept typing in QWERTY, even though the "hardware keyboard" setting was "English--Dvorak". I figured out that I had been typing (well, "handwriting") in Chinese and the keyboard won't work in Dvorak unless you last used English as your on-screen "software" keyboard.

    Before turning on Bluetooth, make sure your software keyboard is set to English. (First tap any entry field and make the on-screen keyboard appear. Then, tap the little "globe" icon until the keyboard is English. Then turn on Bluetooth and it should be fine.)
    iPhone 3GS, MacMini, AirPort Extreme, iOS 4, 32gb
  • William Grassie Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Mar 31, 2011 11:08 AM (in response to Matthew Smith)
    As a Dvorak keyboard user I would also register my disappointment that Apple did not include this keyboard layout option on the iPad 2 which I just bought. How pathetic! Such elegant technology crippled by the stupidity of the QWERTY keyboard layout. Let us hope that a new software update will fix this oversight soon.
    iPad 2, iOS 4, iPad, iPhone...
  • Canadian in Malta Calculating status...
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    Aug 4, 2011 5:35 AM (in response to William Grassie)

    I'm with you William. I've been typing Dvorak since my SE! That must be 20 years. I wish I'd read this first.


    This is kinda like what being a Mac User used to be like. It couldn't be done because there just weren't enough of us.

  • johnrpenner Calculating status...
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    Dec 4, 2011 12:57 PM (in response to shroudlupe)

    you know.. the iphone is almost perfect in every way - but dear apple engineers - after waiting for five iphone iOS revisions - when, o when will we finally get the base functionality that we had 20 years ago..!?!? just a plain simple onscreen dvorak software keyboard layout.. its not a software limitation, as you can clearly add any arrangement of keys and call it a keyboard layout - thus, a glaring deficiency. :-(

  • Meg St._Clair Level 8 Level 8 (37,460 points)
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    Dec 4, 2011 3:31 PM (in response to johnrpenner)

    This is a user-to-user forum. You're not actually talking to any Apple engineers here. Submit your feedback to Apple using the appropriate link on the Feedback page:



    Best of luck.

  • Apomixis Calculating status...
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    Dec 10, 2011 6:33 PM (in response to shroudlupe)

    Figuring that it at least won't hurt, I submitted the following feedback at the link below.


    Maybe if lots of people ask for this feature, there'll be more chance they'll consider it.


    Here was my request:




    I own both an ipad 2 and iPad 1.  Both allow for a hardware keyboard layout of Dvorak, but iOS 5 does not have a software keyboard layout in Dvorak.


    The Dvorak layout is a high efficiency keyboard layout that places the most commonly used English vowels and consonants under the touch-typist's home keys and is designed to speed up typing.  This is as opposed to the Qwerty layout which was created to slow down the typist so that manual typewriters would not jam (and how long has it been since you've used a manual typewriter!!:)


    I've been using Dvorak for 11 years, so it's really difficult to change back to the inefficient Qwerty layout.


    Could I please ask you to consider adding a software Dvorak keyboard layout to the iPad?  It would be a wonderful addition.


    Thank you for considering my request,

  • lintfree Calculating status...
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    Mar 4, 2012 9:30 PM (in response to Apomixis)

    I'm with you Apomixis. I've been using a Dvorak keyboard layout on a Mac for 25 years and don't know why Apple won't provide it on the latest hardware. Why would I carry around a BT keyboard so that I can type efficiently on my iPod Touch?

  • point618 Calculating status...
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    Mar 9, 2012 7:29 PM (in response to shroudlupe)

    Make sure you UN-select 'US qwerty'.  Now if we can only get apple to make Dvorak an option on the ipad without a hardware keyboard!

  • jc@mac Calculating status...
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    Mar 18, 2012 8:35 PM (in response to point618)

    The thing is, I don't know how anyone would touch type on an iPad using the software keyboard anyway - there's no home line guides - and you can't rest your fingers there or all of those characters will be input, right?

    To use that people are looking at their hands or hand and doing hunt and peck.


    The only solution for me that makes any sense are the hardware keyboard-and-stand-or-case solutions.


    The perfect bluetooth keyboard in a case for iPad 2, for me anyway is:


    iHome Bluetooth keyboard case for iPad 2

    Model: IH-IP2100


    Choosing DVORAK in the Settings app is awkward because of where they put it - but it works!


    Under 'Add a Hardware Keyboard' go all the way to the bottom, and between Belgian and Colemak, you'll see...




    What a relief - and this is totally satisfying. Sweet little compact keyboard - Just what I wanted.


    One little note is that on the iHome keyboard the right-shift key is in a spot that I missed a few times in the beginning, (hitting the up arrow instead), but after about 5 minutes of typing I seem to have worked that out of my hands.


    Enjoy touch typing in Dvorak on your iHome Bluetooth Keyboard Case!

  • tulrich Calculating status...
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    May 6, 2012 8:02 PM (in response to jc@mac)

    Where are you finding this "Add a Hardware Keyboard" option?


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