Hi, downloaded iPhoto '11 from the new Mac App Store but would also like to install it on our other three macs at home. I called the 5th Ave store in NY and they said it is only a single licence so I have to buy it again. Other places like Macworld say one copy can be used on all the home macs. I suspect Macworld is right. If so, my question is,... Is there an easy way to install or update these apps without having to download them again? Like currently I download updates once and then update all our macs. Fast. Cheap. ANy ideas now with the latest stuff from the App Store?
MacBook Pro, Core 2 Duo 2.53 MHz,
Mac OS X (10.6.6),
4.0GB RAM
Hi.. yes I understand the difference in licensing but at this stage I'm still not sure what kind of licence exists for apps on the Mac App Store. For example, I can install the game Flight COntrol on my iPhone, my wife's iPhone and our kids' iPod Touch.
It is for one and only one system - in the app store click on iPhoto to expand the description and on the right click on license - in 2A it says you can not distribute it over a network where it could be used by two devices at the same time
2. Permitted License Uses and Restrictions. This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single computer at a time. The Apple Software may be used to reproduce materials so long as such use is limited to reproduction of non-copyrighted materials, materials in which you own the copyright, or materials you are authorized or legally permitted to reproduce.
This License does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one computer at a time, and you may not make the Apple Software available over a network where it could be used by multiple computers at the same time. You may make one copy of the Apple Software in machine-readable form for backup purposes only; provided that the backup copy must include all copyright or other proprietary notices contained on the original. Except as and only to the extent expressly permitted in this License or by applicable law, you may not copy, decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble, modify, or create derivative works of the Apple Software or any part thereof. THE APPLE SOFTWARE IS NOT INTENDED FOR USE IN THE OPERATION OF NUCLEAR FACILITIES, AIRCRAFT NAVIGATION OR COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS, AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL SYSTEMS, LIFE SUPPORT MACHINES OR OTHER EQUIPMENT IN WHICH THE FAILURE OF THE APPLE SOFTWARE COULD LEAD TO DEATH, PERSONAL INJURY, OR SEVERE PHYSICAL OR ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE.
Fore more than one computer Apple provides the Family Pack.
(ii) If you are a commercial enterprise or educational institution, you may download a Mac App Store Product for use either (a) by a single individual on each of the Mac Product(s) that you own or control, or (b) by multiple individuals on a single shared Mac Product that you own or control. For example, a single employee may use a Mac App Store Product on both the employee’s desktop Mac Product and laptop Mac Product, or multiple students may serially use the Product on a single Mac Product located at a resource center or library.
"On each of the mac products I own". Given the example, clearly it can be legally installed on more than one computer.
Neither. We're just a family. I have a Mac. My wife has a Mac... and our kids have 2 Macs. We can all play iTunes music as it is good on 5 Macs according to the usage agreement and we can all play that music on our ipods/iphones etc legally too. Apple does this well. The apps I buy for our ipods on one account work on all of them too which is great cos they are all synced with the one account. Everything we do legally within our family. I'm just wanting clarification and most importantly, the same ease of use with the Mac App Store.
I agree it's not clear as afar as the Apple App store is concerned. Previous iLife purchases were subject to the agreement I linked to. Call your local Apple store, ask someone there and go with their interpretation.
This is what Macworld say... it is pretty detailed but I don't know if it's 100% accurate:
_*Licenses and copy protection*_
*Can I buy an app on one Mac for use on all my computers?*
Yes, you can install apps bought from the Mac App Store on any and every Mac that you personally own and use.
*What about the five-Mac restriction that I have with videos I bought from iTunes? Does that work for Apps too?*
No. Apps don't check to see if you've using an iTunes-authorized Mac. They can ask you to verify your Apple ID and password, but that's a single check and it's just to verify you are who you say you are. Once your identity is verified, that's it. There's no authorizing or deauthorizing or counting of different Macs.
*Does that mean I could buy one copy of an app and install it on every Mac in my business?*
No, the license you agree to when you enter the Mac App Store says that app downloads are for Macs that you personally own, and that's a license for personal use. Apps that are intended for professional use are licensed for you or for a single computer used by several people. While there's no technical impediment to you installing them on multiple Macs at work, you'll be violating the license agreement. It's the same scenario as if you buy a single-user copy of iWork and install it on ten Macs at work—you can do it, but you're violating the license agreement, making the act ethically questionable.
*Are there family pack licensing options in the App Store?*
No, apps are purchased for and owned by a user linked to a single Apple ID. But if you log in with that ID on all the Macs in your household, you can download and install your apps on each one.
*How does the Mac App Store handle volume licenses? How about educational discounts? Are those offered in the App Store, or do I have to go straight to the software vendor for that kind of discount pricing?*
As far as we know, there is no volume licensing for Mac App Store apps. However, according to Ken Case at The Omni Group, educational discounts are available, but only on a volume licensing basis. For that, you’ll have to contact Apple.
*Is there any DRM that would prevent me from using a Mac App Store purchase on another computer?*
Some apps allow you to freely copy to other Macs and they’ll run without a hitch (though this seems to be a technical oversight, and not an intentional design). Other apps will require the purchaser of the app to log into the Mac App Store. When you launch such an app, a login window appears, displaying the purchaser’s account name; you then have to enter that account’s password. If you enter a different account, the app doesn’t work.
*Say I migrate to a new Mac. Will I be able to take my App Store purchases with me?*
As mentioned above, when you move an app to another Mac, you might have to enter in the login information of the purchaser. If you have that info, you’re all set. You can also just re-download all your apps straight from the Mac App Store (as long as they’re still available) by logging in on the new Mac and checking the Purchases tab.
It is very clear, you can install and use on as many computers that you own or control, here is the statement from the Apple Terms of use:
ℹ You may download and use an application from the Mac App Store (“Mac App Store Product”) for personal, noncommercial use on any Apple-branded products running Mac OS X that you own or control (“Mac Product”).
by a *single individual* on each of the Mac Product(s) that you own or control
So you can install it on all machines but only YOU - a single individual - can use it on any of them legally - your wife - your kids - etc can not use it only a single individual - pretty clear
It is clear - for multiple users in a family on multiple machines you need a family pack
You may download and
use an application from the Mac App Store (“Mac App Store Product”) for personal, noncommercial use on any Apple-branded products running Mac OS X that you own or control (“Mac Product”).
It does mention anything about a single individual.
There is also NO family pack for sale in the App Store.
*Buy, download, and even redownload.*
You can install apps on every Mac you use and even download them again. This is especially convenient when you buy a new Mac and want to load it with apps you already own.
Also, open the App Store application and scroll to the bottom of the screen. Then read the FAQs, the first one is all you need to read:
*Can I use app from the Mac App Store on more than one computer?*
Apps from the Mac App Store may be used on any Macs that you own or control for your personal use.
That all sounds very clear to me, no indication of limited use to one individual, or any limits at all.
