Final Cut Studio Vs Adobe Premiere Pro CS5.

What are the best reasons for purchasing Final Cut Studio over Adobe Premiere Pro CS5?

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Posted on Jan 11, 2011 12:43 AM

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Jan 11, 2011 2:21 AM in response to mcfly1954

Adobe Premiere has a few features, which actually make it for some users 'better':
• authoring of BluRay is beyond the 'basic' skills of FC/p
• AP makes use of the computational power of (few) graphic-cards as co-processor. Friends in the 'pro'-business told me, that is the biggest issue, FC/pro lacks in its actual version, and what they expect most urgent to be fixed in the next version.
• integration into rest of CS-suite

FC/p
• rock-solid integration into MacOS and other Apple-products
• offered as 'Server'-edition (=frankly, I don't know, wether AP offers a collaborative version)

Jan 11, 2011 12:35 PM in response to mcfly1954

Take into account your own preference. Go to an apple store, check out the interface. Better yet, ask around and see if you can get an hour or two with each of the systems with people who are using it every day. Which interface do you like better?

FWIW, I started editing with film, moved to linear tape, from there to Avid, then went to FCP v1. I know people who use premiere, but it always seemed really clunky to me. I MUCH prefer Final Cut. But you ought to check both out and make up your own mind.

Most of my clients are all either FCP or Avid-based. I don't know any serious producers using premiere-- though photoshop and after effects are stunning applications.

Jan 11, 2011 12:58 PM in response to Jim Cookman

I currently use Final Cut Studio and have done for a number of years, so my preference is definitely with that.

My workplace - who doesn't understand how long it can take to learn a new editing suite - want to purchase Adobe Master Suite CS5 and have me learn Adobe Premiere Pro - simply because it's easier for them to install another PC than a Mac.

I am all for learning how to use APP and I definitely want to learn how to use all of the other programs that come with Adobe Master Suite CS5, but I have a feeling that my work will cease for a substantial amount of time if I don't have Final Cut Studio to work with in the meantime while I learn the new products (working at my home studio with Final Cut Studio is no longer an option).

My argument is that ideally I should have access to both at work.

Jan 21, 2011 5:09 PM in response to mcfly1954

This is a tough question I've been debating in my mind for some time. I've always used FCS, but a member of my editing team continues to impress me with the capabilities of the current APP CS5. Of course, the next iteration of FCS will likely top CS5. I just wish I knew what to expect in the next version of FCS soon. I hope it does continue to strongly compete.

What I like about FCS is that the applications are more Mac-like. If you prefer the Mac application look and interface over Adobe's—which strikes me as altogether different from the Mac look—then that strongly is in FCS's favor.

Mar 16, 2011 5:01 PM in response to AppleSauce84

I use both CS5 and FCP. What surprises me is that I have seen a lot of these "which is better" threads and no one states the obvious--

CS5 is smoking fast compared to FCP.

I've got a dual quad core Mac pro and rendering in CS5 uses almost 100% of all 16 cores (that's 8 + 8 including the virtual cores). Try to render in FCP and you are using a few cores here and there, virtual cores are ignored, and its slow. FCP is not programmed to take advantage of your fancy mac pro hardware while CS5 is.

Secondly, CS5 can mostly handle AVCHD footage (the format most HD camcorders use) without blowing up. You can't and shouldn't try to edit AVCHD in FCP.

To me, these are the things that make CS5 (premiere pro and after effects) better than FCP and Motion.

Mar 16, 2011 6:19 PM in response to john1in2

CS5 is smoking fast compared to FCP.


It's funny you say that. I read something quite interesting in Murch's "In the Blink of an Eye". If I remember correctly, he was talking about editing Apocalypse Now and said after the film was complete, he went back and counted the number of cuts and divided by the number of days editing and it came out to about 1.5 cuts per editor per day. That is, every two days an editor made 3 cuts that made it into the final film.

Speed isn't the issue. (Well, it is for whatever software is faster as it gives them a "marketing advantage".) The real issue is - does the software aid or get in the way of the editor's ability to tell a story? If CS5 does it for you, be glad.

I am the slowest element in my system now. Making my system "smoking fast" isn't going change that. The only thing I REALLY need to be faster is my coffee machine.

Cheers.

x

Mar 17, 2011 10:00 AM in response to Studio X

That is a good perspective that I had not thought of before.

For me (an ameuter), there is too much time sitting around watching the progress bars on FCP. I spent a lot of $$ for a fast Mac Pro and the program does not seem to utilize the cycles available.

In CS5 things move a lot faster and I don't waste time sitting around like I do with FCP.

A pro editor for the movie studios is concerned with advanced feature sets such as color matching that prosumers don't even understand. The pro may spend a day tweaking a single clip where the prosumer will spend a day on a group of clips. Processing speed will therefore be more important to the prosumer where the features and their implementation will be more important to the pro.

(just my guess).

Mar 17, 2011 1:42 PM in response to john1in2

there is too much time sitting around watching the progress bars on FCP.


I submit that you have a weak working methodology. I don't spend time watching render bars progress.

Organize your material, edit it in a native format and when you export and the machine is tied up - go do something useful while the machine is busy.

I won't go so far as to say that the pursuit of "fast" is the enemy of "good", but if 99% of what's up on youtube is any indication, working faster doesn't offer much hope.

By example - word processing is ever so much FASTER than writing by hand. Yet, all these faster digital technologies have not generated masterpieces in any qualitative or quantitative way. All the technology does is give people less time to consider what they are doing - with the likely outcome of adding that much more to the dross of the world.

Good luck.

x

Mar 17, 2011 9:20 PM in response to Studio X

Studio X wrote:
there is too much time sitting around watching the progress bars on FCP.


I submit that you have a weak working methodology. I don't spend time watching render bars progress.

Organize your material, edit it in a native format *

Good luck.

x


This is the standard line that the pros use to say that their their dedicated carefully planned workflow shows superior intelligence to the unwashed masses. They just cannot accept that people would like to browse their AVCHD archives and edit natively on the fly trying clips here and there.

Rather than saying that my workflow is bad you should recognize that the only reason you need your specific workflow is that your machines are limited. If not you could edit clips on the fly without careful planning. My workflow is only bad in FCP, it works fine in CS5. Your workflow is a waste in CS5.

My contention is that neither method is better.

Mar 18, 2011 8:20 AM in response to john1in2

This is the standard line that the pros use to say that their their dedicated carefully planned workflow shows superior intelligence to the unwashed masses.


Intelligence isn't the issue. Efficiency is. Professionals value efficiency. Why? Because that's one place where they make their money.

Watch the Tour de France and spend some time observing how professional cyclists move on their bikes. Then, go down to the local playground and watch how kids ride.

The pros cover a much greater distance with considerably less effort than the kids.

Who is having more fun? Probably the kids because they are just reveling in the pure joy of being on a bike. However, if you want to cover 100 miles in 5 hours, you can't ride like a kid.

Have fun.

x

Aug 23, 2011 5:59 PM in response to Studio X

Just found this thread, it looks like it got a little off topic, but i was wandering the same question in terms of APP vs Final cut. A few months ago i would of gone with final cut every time, but now that you can only get the rediculous new version that is final cut X, i feel that apple may have done Adobe a massive favour... am i right in thinking this? Obviously i need try both out, and thankfully adobe have a trial on their website, so i will. But does anyone have any opinions now that we know exactly what final cut x has to offer.


A little side note, a lot of people are saying about the price, Personally, i get student rates at Adobe, so their production suite is £339ish, whereas the 3 software options from apple add up to about £280. So not much difference in price, but there are programs, most notable a dvd authoring program, missing from the current final cut set up. And as far as i'm aware, despite a bit effort from apple to close the gap, after effects still outstrips motion with ease.... so i guess it all comes down to the meat of the suites, the actual editing software. Thoughts?

Jan 30, 2012 6:49 PM in response to Filmmakermatt

Hi friends i'ven reading your coments and my conclusions are CS5 is faster and has the same features and quality than FCP, i like to ask to Studio X if you know more FCP and you are a pro why? with facts because if i have to buy or say to a friend or client go and use one or another with real facts.


Example FCP has better color calibration, better final quality, more features or so.


Another curious thing is that jhon 1 in 2 said is better AVCHD compatibility or handle these are to consistent points that i can undertand as a normal person.


I can understand a point if you can say me why FCP is better with examples because i know much of hardware but a little of this software, i can give a big point to a software tha can use mi machine at full capacity because if i spend 10K$ in a computer i'd like a blazing fast one, if not is better to spend only 2.5K$ and wait the same amount of time for the same results.


Sorry for my english i'm not from USA so my vocabulary is short.

Jan 30, 2012 7:04 PM in response to Filmmakermatt

Well friend reading what you post it's interesting what you said, so i can conclude that FCP is loosing against Premiere in new features, like Authoring nad maybe more is good to know that too, so we can do the job with both programs but Final Cut needs to close a gap with adobe that is a big point.


I'm asking to you because if i have to say to a person, "hey use that program is better than the one that you have now" is better to know pros and cons, i like PC mora than Mac, both can do almost all the same things in a different ways so if you like one or another is up to you how make the job done.


But for me in this forun Adobe is the clear winner in performance and compatibility, and no one say nothing about quality, features and reliability and in these programs are solid points to make a final decision.

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