FCE to Toast 10 Titanium for Blu Ray

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FCE to Toast 10 Titanium for Blu Ray

Hi, I'm totally new to this so any help is appreciated. I'm editing & exporting my videos in Final Cut Express 4. My material is all HD, so after editing I export it as a quick time file with no compression (I think, I go file, export, QT movie) and I want to bring it into Toast 10 Titanium to burn a Blu Ray disc (I have a Lacie Blu Ray burner). My final file size for the movie is about 26 GB, however when I bring it into Toast it says 7.32 GB used, 39.30 remaining (I'm burning on dual layer discs). Any ideas on why? I don't want it to compress it down to such a small file size (presumably loosing quality as well), I've bumped up the bit rates & quality settings in Toast to the max and it still does nothing. I don't want to waste a Blu Ray disc by burning a test copy (these things are expensive), so I was hoping somebody has some expertise or experience in this. Thanks in advance,

Jon

iMac 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, Mac OS X (10.6.5)

Posted on Jan 12, 2011 11:02 AM

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Answer 1

Meg The Dog

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Jan 12, 2011 11:26 AM in response to JonThornhill85

Hi -
I use Toast 9 not 10, so I am not sure that this will look the same in Toast 10 - but you need to make to settings on the Blu-Ray Video Pane - you need to designate the Video format as Blu-Ray Video, and the media as a Blu-Ray Dual Layer Disc.
!http://www.spotsbeforeyoureyes.com/Toast9SetToBluRay.jpg!

MtD

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Answer 2

Jan 12, 2011 11:57 AM in response to Meg The Dog

Meg-
What Blu-Ray burner do you use? I was looking for one the other day and it seemed they only worked with a PC.

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Answer 3

Meg The Dog

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Jan 12, 2011 11:59 AM in response to vidoedude

http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/blu-ray

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Answer 4

Jan 12, 2011 4:01 PM in response to vidoedude

I have a
Lacie d2 Blu-Ray burner. It works very well for me so far (I've been using it to create back up discs of my material that I'm going to be keeping off site, in addition to backups I have on external hard drives).

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Answer 5

Jan 12, 2011 4:07 PM in response to Meg The Dog

Yes, it looks pretty much the same. Unfortunately I had already taken the steps you suggested. Thank you for taking the time to respond though.

I have the BD DL selected, Blu-ray Video selected
Custom encoding settings MPEG-4 AVC, all the settings cranked up to the maximum bit rates & qualities. I can't seem to figure it out.

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Alchroma

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Jan 12, 2011 4:08 PM in response to vidoedude

FYI:

For those with a regular DVD burner (red ray) Toast 9 or 10 can can burn Blue Ray to regular DVD media.
Limited to around 15-20 mins.
You will require a Blue Ray player to view.

Al

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Answer 7

Meg The Dog

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Jan 12, 2011 4:27 PM in response to JonThornhill85

Hi -
Toast is going to encode the video that you supply back into AVCHD to make the "Blu-Ray". In the same way AVCHD video files increase in size when you import them into FCE to edit, they are reduced in size when they are converted back to AVCHD for the Toast Blu-Ray encode. This is why your 26 gig file is showing up as a 7+ gig encode, the codec of the file is being converted to a more compressed format.

I would not set the bit rates to max, as that forces the player to work as hard as possible to play the disk. I would leave the bit rate settings and qualities to the default position.

If you want to do a test, export a 10 minute section of your timeline, and use Toast to burn a "Blu-Ray" on a regular red laser DVD.

Once this burn in done, you can judge the quality of the encode/burn bit rates and qualities, and most importantly, will allow you to verify that your set top Blu Ray player will actually play a home made Blu- Ray disc. There is no guarantee that the set top box will play the disc, particularly if it is an older model.

If the using the default bit rates creates a Blu-Ray of acceptable quality, but the resultant file size is too large to fit on a DVD, then you might want to look at a single layer Blu-Ray Disc that has 25 gigs of storage.

MtD

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Answer 8

Rickiebo

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Feb 6, 2011 10:15 AM in response to JonThornhill85

I have been on this discussion board looking to find out if you can even burn a quick time movie (.mov) in Blu Ray. I tried using toast and it didn't work on my player (may just be the player). Anyway, If anyone has any information on Quick Time and Blu-Ray it would be much appreciated.
Your question was about the size difference- that's what quick time does is take the original and convert it to a .mov which is a smaller file (that's your size difference). But like I said, I don't know enough about it to know if you can even burn Blu-Ray from a Quick time movie.
What I do know is that FCP (and hopefully FCE) has the option to burn a Blu-Ray from the share option. FILE-Share and choose Blu-Ray from there. Hope this is any help.

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