6 Replies Latest reply: Jan 23, 2011 3:14 PM by Patrick Sheffield
RyanManUtd Level 1 Level 1 (105 points)
I am looking for classroom to attend some courses.

Am considering either Motion or After Affects.

Which one is better & easier to learn ?

Thanks

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  • Jim_S Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)
    Hey Ryan,

    It all depends what work you wish to produce, for us one can be a screw driver the other a spanner.

    Speaking from personal opinion I started using Motion after some slow and bad experiences with AE, thats not saying it is a bad piece of software but I didn't get along with it, It has got allot better however. Motion's real time animation and behaviours suit the way we work and we have never looked back, i believe its easier to pickup and use but like anything it takes practise to master. If we need to achieve more complicated results we go into Shake and very rare AE.

    If you want to learn an application to go looking for work, AE is more widely used.

    Hope this helps somewhat, James.
  • RyanManUtd Level 1 Level 1 (105 points)
    Jim_S wrote:
    Hey Ryan,

    It all depends what work you wish to produce, for us one can be a screw driver the other a spanner.

    Speaking from personal opinion I started using Motion after some slow and bad experiences with AE, thats not saying it is a bad piece of software but I didn't get along with it, It has got allot better however. Motion's real time animation and behaviours suit the way we work and we have never looked back, i believe its easier to pickup and use but like anything it takes practise to master. If we need to achieve more complicated results we go into Shake and very rare AE.

    If you want to learn an application to go looking for work, AE is more widely used.

    Hope this helps somewhat, James.


    Thanks James for sharing your experience. Really appreciate it.

    I browsed thru the Apple website, doesn't look like they are selling Motion. Is it that I must buy Final Cut Studio to get Motion ?

    Anyway, I just tried to find school that teach Motion in classroom environment, doesn't look like I can find one in my country. But for After Effects, there are a few schools that teach it.

    Is Motion so unpopular ?

    Thanks
  • David Bogie Chq-1 Level 7 Level 7 (25,305 points)
    RyanManUtd wrote:
    I browsed thru the Apple website, doesn't look like they are selling Motion. Is it that I must buy Final Cut Studio to get Motion ?


    Final Cut is a suite of applications.


    RyanManUtd wrote:
    Anyway, I just tried to find school that teach Motion in classroom environment, doesn't look like I can find one in my country. But for After Effects, there are a few schools that teach it.


    Not likely you'll find a Motion curriculum in a real school. You're probably only going to find Motion-specific, three-day course designed to qualify you for a certificate.

    RyanManUtd wrote:
    Is Motion so unpopular ?


    Your inference is not supportable; there is no direct relationship between the number of copies of Final Cut sold and the number of schools or colleges offering Motion-specific courses.

    Buy the software, study the manual, buy some books, see all of the hundreds of (often questionable) of free tutorials, buy some online tutorials.

    You may findMotion easier to grasp if you have no previous experience with motion graphics software. If you are thinking of getting a job in the special effect, compositing, or motion graphics industry, you have no choice but to learn After Effects and a good two-semester course will just get your feet wet.

    bogiesan
  • ThatChineesYouth Level 3 Level 3 (870 points)
    I agree with David. AE is the world's standard... but from my experience, Motion was much easier to learn. If you mainly edit in FCP you should take a swing at Motion, you might like it.
  • Adam - Trigger Studios Level 2 Level 2 (200 points)
    What AE lacks in ease of use is made up for by it's expandability. AE boasts expressions (basically javascript-like programming that let's you design high-complexity animations), while Motion uses behaviors which are nearly as versatile if you know your way around. Because AE is industry standard, you will see more availability in the plug-in department, though Motion has many.

    For a lot of people they are so similar because of how they use the software. It pretty much comes down to what you really want to do. As stated earlier, each is a specific tool that does very similar things.

    I prefer Motion, and I've started to familiarize myself with AE CS5. Once you understand a few principles you can sort of move between the two of them. Most fundamentals of motionography are the same between the two. I dislike having to make null layers, keyframes, or build complex expressions in AE when I can accomplish the same thing with a simple behavior in motion. It's just the way my brain works.

    Also, I notice more and more that lots of people LOVE to to color correction in AE. While I don't consider it a real color tool, it seems like it's got more capability in this department. So, for doing pretty great compositing I think AE would be preferred.

    Also, there are some great 3D motion tracking tools for AE from the Foundry, which are really powerful if you're integrating with Cinema 4D or something like that. Again, VERY specific stuff that you can't necessarily accomplish in one suite, but very doable in another. Motion has powerful 2D tracking that is SUPER easy to use.

    So, as stated from other folks, it depends on what you want to do. But, starting in Motion is a bit easier if you have the right hardware in place (VERY IMPORTANT), and you can carry the knowledge over to AE is most circumstances. The learning curve on all this is steep, but I'd say that you'll like one better over the other and stick with it.
  • Patrick Sheffield Level 7 Level 7 (29,175 points)
    Yeah - I own AE, but I can count on one hand the number of times I've opened it. There's very little I can't do with Motion/Shake/Final Cut Pro...

    Patrick