WDS vs. Extend a wireless network
iMac 27" C2D 3ghz 8GBMacBook Alum 2.4ghz 4GBPowerMac G5 DP 2ghz 6GB, Mac OS X (10.6.5), iPhone 4 - 3Gs - 3G iPod Touch 2nd Gen Apple TV
iMac 27" C2D 3ghz 8GBMacBook Alum 2.4ghz 4GBPowerMac G5 DP 2ghz 6GB, Mac OS X (10.6.5), iPhone 4 - 3Gs - 3G iPod Touch 2nd Gen Apple TV
Can someone tell me the difference between the two options?
Can someone tell me the difference between the two options?
Actually, why would you even consider the "WDS" setup if the performance is that bad.
I have a further question that may have been answered in Tesserax's response. I'd just like further clarification.
If I am using all 802.11n devices on my network and using "Extend" mode, can I "daisy chain" Airport expresses back to the main Airport Extreme while allowing clients to connect to all devices along the daisy chain?
The reason I ask is because I seem to be failing to configure my network in this manner. When going through the Airport setup, when asked at the very end of the process which device I would like to connect to, if I choose another Airport Express that is extending the network, the process fails. Only if I choose the primary Airport Extreme, will the new Airport Express connect to/extend the network successfully.
Any insight is appreciated. Thanks.
If I am using all 802.11n devices on my network and using "Extend" mode, can I "daisy chain" Airport expresses back to the main Airport Extreme while allowing clients to connect to all devices along the daisy chain?
The "extend a wireless network" feature works like the the hub and spokes of a wheel. The main base station is the "hub" and each "remote" resides at the end of a "spoke". The "remotes" communicate directly to the "hub", not to another "remote" at the end of another "spoke".
So, it is not possible to setup a "daisy chain" type of setup with the "n" AirPort devices.
Is there literally no way to "Daisy Chain" multiple APX base stations using the wireless N settings? I would have thought that as a much newer technology they would have found a solution to making existing technology better. They did make running from the main base station to the remote base station a lot better, but they did away with the relays all together.... I just invested in 4 Airport Extremes, and 2 Airport expresses with the hopes of being able to set it up this way....
I am quite disapointed
Is there literally no way to "Daisy Chain" multiple APX base stations using the wireless N settings?
Sorry, but no way with "n" settings using wireless only.
The old WDS setup would allow a "relay" type device, but WDS is a "g" technology affair with a massive 50% bandwidth loss for every relay or remote on the network. After a single relay and a single remote on the WDS setup, the network is running at only 25% of normal "g" speeds. Cut that in half again for another remote or relay
I too am trying to set up a daisy chain of two airport expesses extending the range of a time capsule in a long rectangular house. The time capsule and airport express are the latest versions. I configured the expresses using 'extend an existing network' but as previously discussed the utility hung if I tried to connect one express to the other and I could only complete the setup if both expresses were connected to and therefore in range of the time capsule / base station. This doesn't achieve the range I need.
If I accept the reduced performance of g over n, how do I set up an old style WDS set-up, I can see no way of doing this in the utility or manual setup options.
Thanks in advance.
My opinion would be that Apple does not want you to use the WDS settings for a number of reasons....some of which have already been mentioned.....so they hide the setup in AirPort Utility.
I am not recommending that you try this unless you are very patient...and don't mind a 75% performance drop on your network.
This is a difficult and frustrating configuration for most users. It's easy to make a mistake and hard to recover without starting all over again...and again.
Please look over Apple's instructions for this before you decide if you want to try this:
Thank you very much, I will give it a go this evening. One final qn though. I don't see in the utility the option to join a WDS network etc, just the 'extend' options. How do I access these?
As I mentioned previously, Apple hides the setting.
Hold down the option key on your Mac while you click on the Wireless Mode selection box to see more "options" appear.
Let us know how things go with WDS. There are some other possible options to consider...all much faster..... if WDS does not work out.
Sorry, I missed that. Thank you. Instructions seem straight forward enough.
I get that I need to reconfigure the Airport relay and remote bases to WDS. What I'm unclear about is whether the main base station (TC connected to the internet) has to be switched from 'extend' to 'WDS' also. From the router's perspective shouldn't the relay station and any client of it or the remote station just look like wireless clients whether in WDS static or Dynamic.
WDS vs. Extend a wireless network