Anyway to reset chips on a battery?

Hello, I had my battery dead just two days ago.

The lithium ion battery doesn't have memory effect like NiCd battery.
However, when I left it uncharged for a day after using MacBook until it automatically went to sleep mode due to lack of battery juice.
Then when I came back home and found out that it said "Condition : Replace Now".
What is funny is that the cells don't seem to be dead. Although it still says 0%, after a while, it says 100% charged. If I unplug the power cable, I can use it for 3h or 3h 30m just like as it did before.
However, if I reboot it, it can't be rebooted. So, at this moment, I have to plugin the power cable. Then it says "0%"

As far as I know, the rechargeable battery has a chip to monitor battery state. The chip should be functioning whether the battery itself is charged or not. I believe the chip should have a power. Probably it has a on-chip-battery like SRAM. It seems to me that the chip is somehow not operating, not the battery cells are dead.

Is there a way to make the chip or whatever functions correctly?

I read this comment posted to Apple Store web site for the battery.

"Like another reviewer said, DO NOT LEAVE YOU LAPTOP IN SLEEP WHILE UNPLUGGED FOR OVER A DAY OR SO. In sleep mode it'll drain the batt far past it's reserve level and into the point of no return. I accidentally did it when I thought I shut my computer down, and now the batt shows 0% all the time, or a little slash through the battery icon. Sad face. Now I need a new battery. The lamest part of this is if you accidentally disconnect the power supply (trip over it or move the computer) the whole thing shuts off. (it's an obvious statement, but a "

There are a couple of messages like that.
It looks very reasonable, and it sounds like that the battery cells themselves don't seem to die.
There must be a way to reset the content of any memory which holds the battery information so that it reports to MacBook correct battery charge level.

I have used ThinkPad, PowerBook 140 and so on, but never had this problem. ( PB 140 battery did have memory effect, though. ) So, isn't this Apple's design fault for the battery or power manager of the OS X?

iMac 17 & MacBook, Mac OS X (10.6.6)

Posted on Jan 23, 2011 7:48 PM

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Jan 23, 2011 8:21 PM in response to JongAm Park

HI Park,

Have you looked at your battery information through system profiler?
(apple menu, chose about this mac, more info button. When System profiler opens, on the left side there is a section called "hardware", under hardware there is a list item called "power. Click on it." Under On the right side you should see " Charge Information." What do you see for " Full charge capacity", and "Cycle count?"

Also how old is the battery?
-tt

Jan 24, 2011 9:10 AM in response to TeenTitan

As a long time user of Macs, I always look that up.
The recycle count is around 500. It is more than 2 years but it doesn't matter.
If a battery gets old, the usable time decreases gradually not abruptly, except for when many of the cells die.
I could use 3+ hours easily before the problem happens. So, it is not that the battery is too old.

Also, if once it is booted with the power cable plugged, it still can be used for 3+ hours although the battery meter says 0%.

It means that the cells themselves are OK.
It's a chip problem or status information maintained on the battery.

Jan 24, 2011 9:13 AM in response to Jay Bullock

I tried it already.
After doing that, It was not OK. I still showed the problem.
However, this morning, it seems to report things correctly.
When rebooting it still thinks that there seems to sense enough battery level.
Unlike yesterday, after logging in, it reported the battery level correctly and didn't say that "Replace now.". However for being sure, I would like to do it again when I go back home.

Thank you.

Jan 24, 2011 10:04 AM in response to JongAm Park

I'd like to know where you got this information about the battery. My understanding is that an old battery can die in one of two ways. The battery life may gradually decrease OR the battery life may just fall off a cliff. Yours has chosen the latter path. If you left the battery in a completely depleted state for any period of time, that can kill off an older battery.

It's time for a new one.

~Ltssa

Jan 24, 2011 1:15 PM in response to Templeton Peck

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Jan 24, 2011 7:05 PM in response to Templeton Peck

To Lissa and Templeton

Where did I get the information? It is from the 2nd battery theory.
What the charge cycle says is "Around that many times of usage or recharge, the battery would be in the state of too old and doesn't hold enough current." That's it. The actual life span can vary.

NiCd battery tended to have short life because it could be handled easily improperly.
However, Lithium Ion batteries were designed to last longer. It was how battery manufacturers in Japan and Korea said why Lithium Ion batteries were better than xxxx at first.

The cells can die abruptly if something bad happens physically and chemically. Also, manufacturing quality is not all the same for all batteries. So, specific batteries would have shorter life than others.
However, in average, it will deteriorate gradually, not this much abruptly.

Anyway, what is more important information there is the amount of current in its fully capacity.
While batteries get older, its full capacity is decreasing. Mine is 4560 mAh, while a new one is 5600 or 5400 mAh. 4650 mAh is still good. That is why I can used it for 3+ hours. ( it depends how I use. If I play video, it can't last that long. My usage pattern is to read blog posts, analyze source codes, build projects and so on. So, from time to time, HDD doesn't spin. )
It says "charge remaining" is 1094 mAh. The number looks reasonable.
"Condition" is normal.

OK. So, after rebooting multiple time after recharging it fully and using it for many hours, my battery looks to survive.

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