Thanks for your grim news. Wow, the Apps that won't go away. This news really will stop me from purchasing or purchasing to try, as opposed to try then buy, any further Apps from the App Store until I get control of my computer back. Again, a VERY un-Mac like approach.
I was skeptical of this whole new App store scenario, and now I see the gotcha in not being in complete control of what I want on my Mac. Repeat, MY Mac. Not Apple's.
FYI: I corrected the model and OS I use below.
, and now I see the gotcha in not being in complete control of what I want on my Mac. Repeat, MY Mac. Not Apple's.
But you are in complete control of your Mac, Repeat Your Mac, not Apple's.
You decide what to install. You decide what to delete. All that's happening is Apple if offering you updates from Apps you installed. These updates are not on your Mac. They won't install unless you do it. All you're seeing is a list on a server. So, how does seeing a list on a server make a "gotcha"?
Thanks for your reply.
The "gotcha" as I see it is this:
If I d/l and install most 3rd party Apps, try OR buy, if I delete it, support files and prefs either manually or via any 3rd party app zapper, that puppy is Gone. Physically and Server wise. I like that way. Full control to change my mind and not be on theirs. Call it opting out at my discretion.
I can appreciate your perspective of control. It's just not mine in lieu of the above. I personally believe Apple will change this "feature".
Maybe they will modify it slightly but they cannot eliminate it. Just like with music, movies, iOS apps, etc. Apple keeps track (for audit purposes) of all purchases anyone makes. They will not (and should not) remove the fact you purchased an application, this is why you also receive a receipt even when you download something that is free. It is also this file that is triggering the update notifications.
You might send a suggestion to Apple that they consider an option under "Report a Problem" that would allow a user to deactivate update notices.
Much to my dis-satisfaction I believe that while the question has been answered thoroughly and promptly, the issue remains. While Apple may not consider it a problem per se, others as well as I do. Time will tell, but until then, no more App Store for me when I can download, install, trash and forget 3rd party apps, as well as try before I buy.
Thanks again to all who read or responded, and write Apple if you feel the same.
If I d/l and install most 3rd party Apps, try OR buy, if I delete it, support files and prefs either manually or via any 3rd party app zapper, that puppy is Gone. Physically and Server wise.
That puppy is most certainly not Gone. He's nowhere near gone. He's all over the place.
If you download any app someone, somewhere on the Internet knows that you did. In fact, a lot of people do. The Software Maker has a record of your download. If you used a third party site (like McUpdate) to download then that site has a record. If the developer used a third party site to host the download, they have a record. Your ISP. Heaven forbid you actually used a Credit Card or PayPal to purchase an app because they all have a record of the transactions.
If you trash the app, the plist files, unsubscribe from their mailing list, that data doesn't change. Visa doesn't erase that transaction from your Account. Amazon's S3 don't erase your IP address from the list of people who downloaded the app and so on. Apple can't erase the record of your Purchase, that would be illegal. They have to account for their income to the Share Holders and the Tax people.
If I buy iPhoto from the app store, at the very least, the following people have access to that information:
Apple - the vendor
The U.S Government - or whereever Apple pays Tax.
Akami - the distributor
My Government - because of Sales Tax in the E.U.
If I delete the app, none of that changes.
To think that because you trashed the app somehow all trace of your flirtation - however brief - with the software is erased is somewhat naive.
Perhaps what you're asking might be more on the lines of an 'Opt out of Update Notifications for Apps I no longer use' option?
Those items I understand. Never doubted that I was gone from their radar, just want their product off my Mac and any notifications associated with them. That's all.
(Perhaps what you're asking might be more on the lines of an 'Opt out of Update Notifications for Apps I no longer use' option?)
Absolutely the most usable item you offered. Thanks.