Blue screen: is it fried?

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Blue screen: is it fried?

G5 never fully recovered from a kernel panic created after trying to connect a projector while it was on "Sleep Mode". I probably should have turned it off first right?

After formatting/reinstalling Tiger 10.4 twice (i didnt update to 10.4.9 yet), and deconnected everything but mouse/keyboard/main HD, i have no problem Safe Booting, but regular start up will stop at that notorious BLUE SCREEN.

Info:
- I mainly use this computer for Protools 7.4.
- "No audio device found" for output or input.
- both monitor outputs seem to work.
- i cannot even open an online video.

- Disk Warrior finds no software nor hardware problem
- I tried most of the main solutions found online and in Ted Landau's Help Line book, but to no avail.

Questions:
- Did I fry my graphic/video card (NVidea GeForce FX5200 Ultra)? Or something else?
- Is there any way to check hardware without bringing this to an actual -and costly- Apple repairshop?

Thanks for sharing experience here, i was in the middle of scoring a film - was thinking of using 2 monitors for Protools windows and the projector for the movie - this bug is threatening my meeting the deadline!

Message was edited by: lehublot

G5 PowerPC 2x1.8GHz, Mac OS X (10.4.9), Memory 1.25G 400MHz

Posted on Feb 4, 2011 5:42 PM

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BDAqua

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Feb 4, 2011 5:48 PM in response to lehublot

Hi lehublot, and a warm welcome to the forums! 🙂

Bad video card could be it, it's definitely one thing that may boot in Safe Mode, & not in regular mode when Quartz kicks in.

Have you checked the system log using Console in Utilities?

Logs should be Date/Time stamped if you can narrow it down the the time of the last blue screen.

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lehublot Author

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Feb 4, 2011 6:00 PM in response to BDAqua

Hi BDAqua, thanks for warm welcome and prompt answer!

Excuse my ignorance, i m not sure how to check the system log, but just went to console and it says that so far:

"Mac OS X Version 10.4 (assemblage 8A428)
2011-02-04 06:08:55 -0500
2011-02-04 06:08:56.068 SystemUIServer[140] lang is:fr
Feb 4 14:18:53 power-mac-g5-de-v-t mDNSResponder: Repeated transitions for interface en0 (192.168.0.199); delaying packets by 5 seconds"

Would this happen to talk to you at all?

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BDAqua

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Feb 4, 2011 6:16 PM in response to lehublot

Not enough there, unless maybe you're connecting via Airport? That's another thing disabled in Safe Mode on 10.4.x

Say try starting it in regular mode at Feb 4 19:00:00, then note the time of the blue screen, reboot in Safe Mode, check System log for Feb 4 19:00:00 to Feb 4 time of the blue screen.

Between those should be our clues.

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lehublot Author

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Feb 4, 2011 6:33 PM in response to BDAqua

I m connected via ethernet to router actually, yup, forgot to mention that connection!

Ok, just did what you suggested:

- normal boot
ended up in blue screen at 9.29p

- safe boot
Mac OS X Version 10.4 (assemblage 8A428)
2011-02-04 21:29:48 -0500
2011-02-04 21:29:49.688 SystemUIServer[140] lang is:fr

Do you see anything?

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BDAqua

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Feb 4, 2011 6:56 PM in response to lehublot

Hmmm, nope, not near enough info, I'd expect 20-100 lines!?

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lehublot Author

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Feb 4, 2011 9:02 PM in response to BDAqua

I tried again, had the blue screen at 23;40
This time i let that blue screen on longer, like 15mn.
Up to the point where the fan went into some sort of "hyper-ventilation".

Then i turned it off (via the power button), turned it back on via safe boot.
Here s what the console says:

Mac OS X Version 10.4 (assemblage 8A428)
2011-02-04 23:56:21 -0500
2011-02-04 23:56:22.454 SystemUIServer[141] lang is:fr

We re far from the 20-100 lines here.
But it doesnt seem to register the "blue crash" at 23.40 at all, right?

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BDAqua

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Feb 4, 2011 9:09 PM in response to lehublot

Is that the console log or the system log?

Click on the Logs icon if you see it at top left.

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lehublot Author

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Feb 4, 2011 9:18 PM in response to BDAqua

Very good point: this was the console.log

Here s the system.log, way more talkative it seems:

Feb 4 23:34:27 power-mac-g5-de-v-t shutdown: halt by VT:
Feb 4 23:34:27 power-mac-g5-de-v-t SystemStarter[163]: authentication service (172) did not complete successfully
Feb 4 23:34:28 power-mac-g5-de-v-t SystemStarter[163]: The following StartupItems failed to properly start:
Feb 4 23:34:28 power-mac-g5-de-v-t SystemStarter[163]: /System/Library/StartupItems/AuthServer
Feb 4 23:34:28 power-mac-g5-de-v-t SystemStarter[163]: - execution of Startup script failed

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Feb 4, 2011 9:19 PM in response to lehublot

Here it is entirely, sorry:

Feb 4 23:34:27 power-mac-g5-de-v-t shutdown: halt by VT:
Feb 4 23:34:27 power-mac-g5-de-v-t SystemStarter[163]: authentication service (172) did not complete successfully
Feb 4 23:34:28 power-mac-g5-de-v-t SystemStarter[163]: The following StartupItems failed to properly start:
Feb 4 23:34:28 power-mac-g5-de-v-t SystemStarter[163]: /System/Library/StartupItems/AuthServer
Feb 4 23:34:28 power-mac-g5-de-v-t SystemStarter[163]: - execution of Startup script failed

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Feb 4, 2011 9:22 PM in response to lehublot

sorry again, copy paste works but site doesnt seem to accept the whole message.
I try again:
Feb 4 23:55:49 localhost kernel[0]: standard timeslicing quantum is 10000 us
Feb 4 23:55:49 localhost kernel[0]: vm pagebootstrap: 313010 free pages
Feb 4 23:55:49 localhost kernel[0]: mig table_maxdispl = 70
Feb 4 23:55:48 localhost DirectoryService[53]: Launched version 1.8 (v346)
Feb 4 23:55:49 localhost kernel[0]: MacRISC4CPU::start - found 'cy28508'
Feb 4 23:55:48 localhost mDNSResponder-107 (Mar 20 2005 20: 31:47)[55]: starting
Feb 4 23:55:49 localhost kernel[0]: Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
Feb 4 23:55:49 localhost kernel[0]: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
Feb 4 23:55:48 localhost lookupd[52]: lookupd (version 365) starting - Fri Feb 4 23:55:48 2011
Feb 4 23:55:49 localhost kernel[0]: using 3276 buffer headers and 3276 cluster IO buffer headers
Feb 4 23:55:49 localhost kernel[0]: DART enabled
Feb 4 23:55:49 localhost kernel[0]: MacRISC4CPU: publishing BootCPU
Feb 4 23:55:49 localhost kernel[0]: FireWire (OHCI) Apple ID 42 built-in now active, GUID 000d93ff fec15f82; max speed s800.
Feb 4 23:55:49 localhost kernel[0]: Extension "com.apple.driver.PioneerSuperDrive" has no kernel dependency.
Feb 4 23:55:49 localhost kernel[0]: Security auditing service present
Feb 4 23:55:49 localhost kernel[0]: BSM auditing present
Feb 4 23:55:49 localhost kernel[0]: disabled
Feb 4 23:55:49 localhost kernel[0]: rooting via boot-uuid from /chosen: 6F334CD3-FA4F-30CD-AA54-3F938131B3F1
Feb 4 23:55:49 localhost kernel[0]: Waiting on <dict ID="0"><key>IOProviderClass</key><string ID="1">IOResources</string><key>IOResourceMatch</key><string ID="2">boot-uuid-media</string></dict>
Feb 4 23:55:49 localhost kernel[0]: Got boot device = IOService:/MacRISC4PE/ht@0,f2000000/AppleMacRiscHT/pci@5/IOPCI2PCIBridge/k2-sat a-root@C/AppleK2SATARoot/k2-sata@0/AppleK2SATA/ATADeviceNub@0/IOATABlockStorageD river/IOATABlockStorageDevice/IOBlockStorageDriver/ST380013AS Media/IOApplePartitionScheme/Apple HFS_Untitled2@3
Feb 4 23:55:49 localhost kernel[0]: BSD root: disk0s3, major 14, minor 2
Feb 4 23:55:49 localhost kernel[0]: jnl: replay_journal: from: 2881024 to: 4731392 (joffset 0x256000)
Feb 4 23:55:49 localhost kernel[0]: Jettisoning kernel linker.
Feb 4 23:55:49 localhost kernel[0]: Resetting IOCatalogue.
Feb 4 23:55:49 localhost kernel[0]: Matching service count = 1
Feb 4 23:55:49 localhost kernel[0]: NVDANV30HAL loaded and registered.
Feb 4 23:55:49 localhost kernel[0]: IOPlatformControl::registerDriver Control Driver AppleSlewClock did not supply target-value, using default
Feb 4 23:55:49 localhost diskarbitrationd[47]: disk0s3 hfs 6F334CD3-FA4F-30CD-AA54-3F938131B3F1 Chateau /
Feb 4 23:55:50 localhost kernel[0]: UniNEnet: Ethernet address 00:0d:93:c1:5f:82
Feb 4 23:55:50 localhost lookupd[72]: lookupd (version 365) starting - Fri Feb 4 23:55:50 2011
Feb 4 23:55:52 localhost kernel[0]: NVDA,Display-A: vram [98000000:08000000]
Feb 4 23:55:52 localhost kernel[0]: NVDA,Display-B: vram [00000000:01000000]
Feb 4 23:55:52 power-mac-g5-de-v-t kernel[0]: UniNEnet::monitorLinkStatus - Link is up at 100 Mbps - Full Duplex
Feb 4 23:55:52 power-mac-g5-de-v-t configd[45]: setting hostname to "power-mac-g5-de-v-t.local"
Feb 4 23:55:53 power-mac-g5-de-v-t /System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOS/loginwindow: Login Window Application Started
Feb 4 23:55:55 power-mac-g5-de-v-t configd[45]: executing /System/Library/SystemConfiguration/Kicker.bundle/Contents/Resources/enable-net work
Feb 4 23:55:55 power-mac-g5-de-v-t configd[45]: posting notification com.apple.system.config.network_change
Feb 4 23:55:55 power-mac-g5-de-v-t lookupd[81]: lookupd (version 365) starting - Fri Feb 4 23:55:55 2011
Feb 4 23:55:56 power-mac-g5-de-v-t loginwindow[78]: Login Window Started Security Agent
Feb 4 23:55:58 power-mac-g5-de-v-t mDNSResponder: Adding browse domain local.
Feb 4 23:55:59 power-mac-g5-de-v-t configd[45]: target=enable-network: disabled
Feb 4 23:56:18 power-mac-g5-de-v-t /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Frameworks/ATS.framewo rk/Support/ATSServer: (-3230) Cannot use ATS Persistent Store - switching to old FODB cache code

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BDAqua

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Feb 4, 2011 9:43 PM in response to lehublot

OK, thanks, seems the Data in the HD is bad,but could be many reasons for it looking bad, try unplugging the IDE cable from the Optical drive.

Is this from the blue screen boot period?

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lehublot Author

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Feb 4, 2011 10:05 PM in response to BDAqua

The 23;33 lines are from the blue screen period
The 23;55 lines are from the safeboot period

If this is not clear, i m going to redo the whole thing again now that i know where to get the info (system.log)

In the meantime, i ll unplug the optical drive - i guess i should do that with the G5 turned off rigth?

Will be back in a few..

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BDAqua

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Feb 4, 2011 10:10 PM in response to lehublot

i guess i should do that with the G5 turned off rigth?

Yes.

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Feb 4, 2011 10:16 PM in response to BDAqua

Here are some news from Console: i m gonna post them in small parts to keep this sort of organized.

1, When i turned off the G5 at 1.06am

Feb 5 01:06:27 power-mac-g5-de-v-t shutdown: halt by VT:
Feb 5 01:06:28 power-mac-g5-de-v-t SystemStarter[167]: authentication service (175) did not complete successfully
Feb 5 01:06:29 power-mac-g5-de-v-t SystemStarter[167]: The following StartupItems failed to properly start:
Feb 5 01:06:29 power-mac-g5-de-v-t SystemStarter[167]: /System/Library/StartupItems/AuthServer

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Feb 4, 2011 10:19 PM in response to lehublot

2. i unplugged the optical drive IDE cable and turn the G5 on "normally"

=> no records in system log

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