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Seagate FreeAgent GoFlex Desk frustration

Hi all,

I recently purchased a 2TB Seagate FreeAgent GoFlex Desk external hard drive. Unfortunately, there seems to be a conflict with either my hardware or software. The drive seems to go to sleep after a period on non-use and consequently crashes the Finder and various apps when trying to gain access. I can see the icon for the drive... even navigate down some recently used directories, but then I'll go too far, get the beach ball and have to force restart the entire machine. The same will happen if I'm using an app trying to access files on the drive. I can force quit the app and/or Finder, but they will not be available for use until I force quit the entire machine. I've been trying to solve this problem for a couple weeks now without success, so I thought I'd turn to the Mac community here.

* The drive has been reformatted Mac OS Extended (Journaled).
* I have used Seagate Diagnostics and the drive passes all tests.
* I have disabled drive sleep under Energy Saver.
* I have tested the drive on a MacBook running the same OS as my iMac (10.6.6) without a problem.
* I have disabled Time Machine backup to a TimeCapsule to see if that helps. Does not.
* I have disconnected other drives to see if that helps. Does not.
* I have disabled virus scans, media servers and other apps (that I know of) that sometime run in BG.
* I have tried different USB ports and different wall plugs.

I'm beginning to think there is some sort of compatibility issue with my hardware, but it could still be some sort of software that is conflicting. I simply cannot find the pattern.

I spoke with Seagate support and we got as far as the recommendation to test on another machine. The drive seemed to work fine there, so I'll have to continue troubleshooting with them from that point, but I thought someone here might have some ideas as well.

27" iMac - 3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, Mac OS X (10.6.6), 4GB Ram / ATI Radeon HD 4850

Posted on Feb 9, 2011 8:54 AM

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Jan 16, 2012 8:28 AM in response to neuralstatic

The downloadable software from Seagate doesn't work either. It's called "Seagate Sleep Override Utility for Mac OS.dmg". This doesn't work either. The drive will still sleep and disconnect from the desktop prompting the warning message from Mac OSX about improper disk removal.


I formatted the drive for Windows. Using the Windows utility from Seagate I set it to Never Sleep. It works in Windows. The drive spins down, but never disconnects in Windows. The drive is always available for use.


Next I took the drive and placed it on the Macbook Pro. The Windows formatted drive mounts fine and is usable, but after a few minutes it would sleep and disconnect. Prompting the Mac OS X warning message.

Jan 16, 2012 8:39 AM in response to Bill Fant1

I am assuming that the problems all are having with the segate backup GoFlex Desk 2 TB drive. I also had that experience, and yesterday Jan 15, I talked to a Apple Tech support individul, and his suggestion was to go to the Energy Saver, and click 'Off" the Put the hard disks to sleep when possible!

That is what did, and have not had a problem with the Time Machine back since.

Good luck to all.

Jan 16, 2012 8:53 AM in response to georgefromcoffeyville

Yes that will work. The problem with that is your increasing the mean time to failure for the drive by not allowing it so spin down when not in use. Spin down allows your drive to rest and really doubles the lifetime of your hard drive. Not allowing to spin down just wears down much faster. Turning that off affects all your drives, not just the Seagate piece of junk. This is not heasay or urban legend, its a legitmate fact.

Jan 16, 2012 9:59 AM in response to SuperSizeIt

Useful to know that a Windows disk insists on sleeping when used in a Mac.


There are actually two versions of Seagate's utilities. I don't know if they are for different versions of the disk. One of them is just intended to fix the sleep issue (but does not seem to do so), the other has more functions (but still does not seem to solve the sleep problem).


SuperSizeIt, did you notice how long it took to sleep and disconnect?


My analysis of the simpler software (see my much earlier posts) showed a sleep 10 command, which I would have expected to set the sleep time to ten minutes. To disable Seagate's sleep I would have expected the command to be sleep 0.


But I am not enough of a programmer to be confident, and I did not try changing that line to see what happened.

Jan 16, 2012 10:52 AM in response to georgefromcoffeyville

None of the workarounds for the Mac works. If you use this for Windows it will work fine. The only thing left I can think of is replacing the 3.0 interface ( bottom adaptor that the drive mounts on ) with a Firewire 800/USB 2.0 version. That would cost me another 40 dollars. I'm beginning to suspect its the USB 3.0 Base Adaptor that is suppose to be 2.0 backwards compatible according to Seagate. Who clearly has no clue as to what they are talking about. If you read the threads, even their moderators insist the Mac Freeagent diagnostic tool has the overide sleep setting there. They don't even know how their own software for the Mac version works. LOL

Jan 16, 2012 11:10 AM in response to SuperSizeIt

I doubt if replacing the interface will work. Certainly I had the problem on my older drive, and I was using ither USB 2 or Firewire, can't recall which.


There is the Sleep Override Utility and also the GoFlex Software utility (which contains diagnostics). There is certainly part of the latter that affects sleep in some way, but I am not competent to say what it does. The former is much simpler. It is quite easy to read the scripts that are contained in the packages (for instance, via Quick Look and it Suspicious Package plugin), but understanding what one reads is another matter.


George, if you say that turning off Put Hard Drives to Sleep solves the problem, then I believe you since presumably you have checked. But I thought the problem with Seagate's drive was that they have their own sleep setting (15 minutes, I think, originally) that overrides the Energy Saver setting.

Jan 16, 2012 2:34 PM in response to SuperSizeIt

Experts can (see earlier in the discussion) create a shell script and launch daemon themselves to do what Keep Drive Spinning does. Of course it keeps that drive spinning all the time, which suited me and may suit others. We really need a solution that will let the Seagate drive spin down and spin up again when required, as most other drives do.


As for Seagate's Sleep Override Utility, a crucial part of it is this post-install script, which I have mentioned before. As I said, I don't believe that sleep 10 can possibly override sleep.


#!/bin/bash

function error {

/bin/echo Error

}

trap error ERR



tmpdir="/tmp/drvrInstall/Seagate Sleep Override Utility.kext"

kextload "$tmpdir"

sleep 10

kextunload -b com.seagate.driver.Seagate_Sleep_Override_Utility

rm -rf "/tmp/drvrInstall"

exit 0

Jan 17, 2012 3:37 AM in response to danco34

It is hard to imagine why Seagate has not addressed this problem.

Would someone explain to me exactly what you do after installing the daemon!

Also, would the daemon keep the external drive spin all the time, and if so, should I go back into my into the Energy Saving and check the "put the hard drive to sleep when possible".

Thanks for the information.

Seagate FreeAgent GoFlex Desk frustration

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