Locking apps on iPad

Drilling-Billy wrote:

What I find most frustrating is that I simply cannot let me 3 year old son use the Ipad without supervision which would be no problem if AppLock and further Ipad restrictions would be possible.

You can control what apps your install on your iPad. You can learn how to use the built in restrictions. You can learn how to use Guided access. You can make the choice to leave a toddler unsupervised with a computer or not.

Drilling-Billy wrote:

As it is now the whole bookshelf is either closed or fully open while we are merely asking for the possibility to place some books higher up the shelves for kids not to reach...

I love this analogy

Meg St._Clair wrote:

You can control what apps your install on your iPad. You can learn how to use the built in restrictions. You can learn how to use Guided access. You can make the choice to leave a toddler unsupervised with a computer or not.

Sure there are no shortage of partially effective workarounds as has been pointed out through the past 11 pages, but none address the fundamental issues on a scope that would accomodate all users, business, trade show, teaching, children, etc.

Just leaves me shaking my head wondering why so many are adverse to the idea of adding restriction options that will never affect them unless they choose to enable them.

Jalmolky wrote:

Just leaves me shaking my head wondering why so many are adverse to the idea of adding restriction options that will never affect them unless they choose to enable them.

It's not a necessarily a question of being averse. I'm just weary of people claiming that, until Apple adds these features their children are in imminent danger of having their minds warped by the internet. And especially annoying is the notion that Apple might be legally culpable should that happen. Maybe Apple will add these features. Maybe they won't. Until the do, parents need to be parents. They need to supervise their children with any tool they consider potentially dangerous.

Personally, I can think of a whole lot of features I'd rather see Apple spend their developement time and dollars on.

Best of luck.

OK maybe adverse (antagonistic) / averse (strongly unfavorable to) was the wrong word(s), but you have to admit there are a lot of people who are, for some reason, outspoken against why app locking is uneeded (for them). I guess I just don't see why you would take the time to speak against something that wouldn't really afffect you.

That said, we do agree that no one is in imminent danger and legal ramifications might be stretching it a bit.

I can say unfortunately I've seen:

Personally, I can think of a whole lot of features I'd rather see Apple spend their developement time and dollars on.

More times than I wish to too and I'm afraid I will need more than luck to see this through.

That argument comes up in game development a lot too, when players ask for one thing and people claim its uneeded and they should spend development resources on X instead of Y. Without knowing the development team department divisions and responsiblities no one can say that X & Y can't be developed simultaneously or that one is at the expense of the other.

I guess I just don't see why you would take the time to speak against something that wouldn't really afffect you.

And that's my point exactly. Thank you Jalmolky. We ask for an opening in API so an App can be developed that for a lot of people will be handy. If this is not for you then why are you in this discussion?

Stop giving advice on good parenting. It has nothing to do with this subject. And if you are not able to then look at this from the other mentioned benefits like business, trade show, teaching etc...

Having AppLock is very, very handy for a lot of people but for some reason the API is not suited for this. Apple does this with a reason that we cannot comprehend here.

I'm just weary of people claiming that, until Apple adds these features their children are in imminent danger of having their minds warped by the internet

Do you have children? My son is 3 and yes the internet is very dangerous for a 3 year old. Simple example: You cannot let a 3 year old watch Youtube without supervision. So... AppLock would be handy. Handy because the Ipad is not dangerous anymore. It is an App meaning you don't have to install it while others can. That is the whole idea behind having Apps. And as it is now Apple is forbidding this App, simple as that.

And you are proving the point of other people.

Apple is not sandboxing apps in an effort to frustrate people with kids as you seem to think. They do this as part of the overall security plan for iOS. The API you want them to add would require dropping sandboxing and would significantly weaken the security of the iPhone. There is good reason for others to be concerned with that.

Drilling-Billy wrote:

My son is 3 and yes the internet is very dangerous for a 3 year old. Simple example: You cannot let a 3 year old watch Youtube without supervision.

Then why would you do so? Or why would allow a 3 year old to use any device such as this unsupervised?

There must be a way to have this feature without compromising the safety of the device.

For James... I don't think you reached Level 7 by not reading previous posts.

But here we go again...

Stop giving advice on good parenting. It has nothing to do with this subject. And if you are not able to then look at this from the other mentioned benefits like business, trade show, teaching etc...

Sorry but the constant nagging on how to raise my kids get a little anoying as others have also mentioned.

Drilling-Billy wrote:

Stop giving advice on good parenting. It has nothing to do with this subject. And if you are not able to then look at this from the other mentioned benefits like business, trade show, teaching etc...

It has everything to do with it. You're the one bringing up the use case. You're the one who wants Apple to help you supervise your kid. I'm not sure why your surprised that people give you advice. And, as long as it doesn't violate the terms of use, people are free to offer what advice they see fit. Currently, your only options are to supervise your child, get a different device or provide more age appropriate toys for those times you are not able to appropriately monitor iPad use. Lego makes nice sets for small children. Lots of opportunity for creative, hands on play.

Drilling-Billy wrote:

There must be a way to have this feature without compromising the safety of the device.

For James... I don't think you reached Level 7 by not reading previous posts.

But here we go again...

Stop giving advice on good parenting. It has nothing to do with this subject. And if you are not able to then look at this from the other mentioned benefits like business, trade show, teaching etc...

Sorry but the constant nagging on how to raise my kids get a little anoying as others have also mentioned.

And I was responding specifically to your comments concerning a three year old. If you don't want criticism about raising yoru kids, stop posting complaints about how the iPad is not designed to absolve you of parental responsiblity.

As for "buisness, tradeshow, teaching etc." try looking into guided access (http://help.apple.com/ipad/7/#/iPada16d1374)

James Ward4 wrote:

As for "buisness, tradeshow, teaching etc." try looking into guided access (http://help.apple.com/ipad/7/#/iPada16d1374)

It is myself that keeps harping on about bussiness, tradeshow etc. and the second sentence of that link is everything that is wrong with guided acess.

"Guided Access limits iPad to a single app"

There really needs to be an option to either limit access to a group of apps or block access to a group of apps.

Jalmolky wrote:

There really needs to be an option to either limit access to a group of apps or block access to a group of apps.

I'd explain the difference between "needs" and "wants" but, well the last time someone did that, the Monty Python jokes went on for a page an a half.

Submit your feedback to Apple explain what features you believe would be beneficial:

http://www.apple.com/feedback

Best of luck.

Has anyone tried a third party App like Parentkit ? I've been using it and although it may not be perfect for everybody it does go a long way to provide me with some non-confrontational control of my kids ipad. Its too bad its an all or nothing app limiter but the scheduler does make up for that. I do agree that no matter what app you use, parenting, involvement and rules are still necessary. Cheers.

Meg St._Clair wrote:

Jalmolky wrote:

There really needs to be an option to either limit access to a group of apps or block access to a group of apps.

I'd explain the difference between "needs" and "wants" but, well the last time someone did that, the Monty Python jokes went on for a page an a half.

Submit your feedback to Apple explain what features you believe would be beneficial:

http://www.apple.com/feedback

Best of luck.

No need to explain, I know what I need from my device to "just work" as another has put it.

Feedback has been given long ago, my hope is that continued discussion will bring more attention to the subject.

Thanks again for the luck, but I still doubt its usefulness. I guess we all use colloquialisms now and then.

It has everything to do with it. You're the one bringing up the use case. You're the one who wants Apple to help you supervise your kid.

Currently, your only options are to supervise your child, get a different device or provide more age appropriate toys for those times you are not able to appropriately monitor iPad use.

Lego makes nice sets for small children. Lots of opportunity for creative, hands on play.

Do you scout this forum for dumb answers to give? Do you even have a kid? What exactly is your input in this subject?

I see someone that needs supervision yes, but it's not my child...😉