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Recently did a re-install of 10.3.9, but now it's not much fun because Sherlock doesn't work.

No matter what I enter into the search field, the response of "no results found" stays there. It's almost as though it loads the internet, but can't access information or something prevents it from searching. All the other channels do the same thing.

Been through the discussion posts and tried deleting various files to no avail.

Can anyone please suggest something that will work?

G4 Titanium Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Posted on Dec 19, 2005 4:11 PM

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Dec 20, 2005 8:40 AM in response to iconophile-ltd

You could re-install Sherlock with your Panther Install CD and an app called Pacifist. The basic recipe is:

- install Pacifist
- start Pacifist
- insert your Panther Install CD into drive
- in Pacifist, select Open Mac OS X Install Packages
- when these load and a new window opens, click Find at the top and enter Sherlock.app into the search box
- you should get several hits; select the top one (it is for English)
- click Install at the top of the window

I also think that you should re-install the SherlockCore.framework. With Pacifist running:

- click Find and enter SherlockCore into the search box
- select the first hit
- click Install at the top of the window

That should do it. I hope this fixes your problem.

Rich

EMAC G4 1.0 GHz Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Dec 20, 2005 1:06 PM in response to iconophile-ltd

Addendum:

The first search result for "Sherlock.app" turned out to be from the Additional Languages pkg (Japanese).

English does not exist as a pkg; all search reults contain Sherlock in the Additional Languages pkg.

And yes, this is a retail-purchased CD Install set of 3 disks for 10.3

None of the three disks respond favourably to a search for Sherlock, except as noted above. Am I missing something basic here? It's gotta be in there somewhere, right? I'm assuming Pacifist doesn't erase pkg files.

Oy.

Dec 21, 2005 10:42 AM in response to iconophile-ltd

I am sorry that this is being such a pain for you. Also, I am mystified at what you found (or did not find) when doing the search for Sherlock.app.

For my system, I have a 3 CD disk set for 10.3.0 for an eMac. The disk that I am using is the first one (Software Install and Restore 1). After starting Pacifist and inserting the CD, I click on "Open Mac OS X Install Packages" in the Pacifist window. When I click on Find and enter Sherlock.app, I get 15 search results which all say "Sherlock.app". When I click on the topmost instance for Sherlock.app, a window on the left opens and I can see where Sherlock.app lies in the directory tree. The directory structure looks like

Contents of OSInstall.mpkg
Contents of EssentialSystemSoftware.mpkg
Contents of Essentials.pkg
Applications
Sherlock.app

Of course, there is a bunch of other stuff there too, but this is the nesting of Sherlock.app. That is the version that is for the English language.

If, in the search results, I click on the second return for Sherlock.app, I find the following nesting at the left:

Contents of OSInstall.mpkg
Contents of Languages.mpkg
Contents of Japanese.mpkg
Applications
Sherlock.app

From what you report, it sounds like your first search result (under Japanese.mpkg) was my second search result. However, in your last post, it sounds like you think you loaded the proper stuff.

But to make sure, let me ask: Did you restore the Sherlock.app that was nested under "Contents of Essentials.pkg)? If not, and if you cannot find this version on your CD, then I don't know what to make of this.

Also, let me ask you about your re-install of 10.3.9. I am wondering if you have some underlying problem that was not totally cured by the re-install.
What problems were you having prior to the re-install?
By re-install, do you mean that you did an Archive and Install from your Panther Install CD and then used Software Update to bring your system up to 10.3.9? In other words, how much of your system did you re-install?

EMAC G4 1.0 GHz Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Dec 21, 2005 3:45 PM in response to Rich JG

... it sounds like your first search result
(under Japanese.mpkg) was my second search result.


Yup, that's correct.

However, in your last post, it sounds like you think
you loaded the proper stuff.


I sent a mail to Charles at Pacifist; he suggested a couple clicks that got me to your first search result (English).

But to make sure, let me ask: Did you restore the
Sherlock.app that was nested under "Contents of
Essentials.pkg)?


Yes, that was the second solution.


Also, let me ask you about your re-install of 10.3.9.
I am wondering if you have some underlying problem
that was not totally cured by the re-install.
hat problems were you having prior to the
re-install?


Horrible problems with Safari; crashing, freezing, hanging after launching, etc. Plus I had used Norton before finding out it doesn't work so well on Panther. The re-install fixed all of that, plus I had gone through the Discussions and determined that the previous vesion of Safari (1.2) seemed to perform better than 1.3 when running 10.3.9

There was no issue with Sherlock at that time.

Could that be the problem here? Running Safari 1.2 instead of 1.3?

By re-install, do you mean that you did an Archive
and Install from your Panther Install CD and then
used Software Update to bring your system up to
10.3.9?


It was a clean install. I could not do an Archive; the machine was using 10.3.9 (updated form the Apple site with several downloads) and so would not allow using the original CD Install set of 10.3 to Archive.

In other words, how much of your system did you re-install?


Everything. From the beginning.

Everything else works without trouble, inclusive of web connection; trashing and re-loading Sherlock via Pacifist has not solved the issue. Setting up a new User Account makes no difference. I spent some time with my ISP to check for router failures or firewalls on their end, but everything is fine there as well.

Very odd, this.

Thanks for the response though. If you have any ideas, please don't be shy.

G4 Titanium Mac OS X (10.3.9)

G4 Titanium Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Dec 21, 2005 7:14 PM in response to iconophile-ltd

That is a very nice and complete report of your problems and observations. One thing really sticks out for me and that is your comments about Safari. Problems with Safari caused you to re-install your system, and now you are running 1.2 instead of 1.3. This reminds me of a very bizarre problem that some people ran into after the -009 Security Update (I think it was that one) related to having an older version of Safari on their machines. I am wondering if something similar could be causing you trouble.

I have two suggestions for further troubleshooting:

One is to look for some output in your console.log file when Sherlock fails. A convenient way to do that would be to start the Console app and make sure that the console log file is the one that opens on your screen. Then, start Sherlock and do one of the things that does not work. When a failure occurs, something might be written to that log. If that happens, please copy and paste it. There is about a 1 in 3 chance that we could make something out of it.

My other thought is for me to try to reproduce your problem, under the theory that it is related somehow to the order in which you have installed software. I would be interested in installing on operating system on a test partition that I have. To do this, I would need to have the output of your softwareupdate log file, from the time that you re-installed 10.3.0 to the present (I am assuming that you have used Software Update. ) The info of interest can be obtained from the Software Update panel of System Preferences. There is a button somewhere which allows you to open the log file on your screen. That would be the one of interest. So, if you are willing to do this, I will see if I can learn anything.

Dec 21, 2005 8:59 PM in response to Rich JG

That is a very nice and complete report of your problems and observations.


Thanks, I'm becoming very intimate with them. ;P

... related to having an older
version of Safari on their machines. I am wondering
if something similar could be causing you trouble.


Hard to say.
All I know is that running Safari 1.3 started off fine, then became progressively worse each time I used it. After the Re-install, I loaded 1.2 and it's been working very well... so I'm cautious about updating it.
...start the Console app and make sure
that the console log file is the one that opens on
your screen. Then, start Sherlock and do one of the
things that does not work. When a failure occurs,
something might be written to that log.


Nothing written in the first log that appears. However, in the Library log, there is this:

CurrentSet updated to 0 (Automatic)
2005-12-19 22:45:34.526 Internet Connect[301] Error: Unable to create connection ref for service id 1
2005-12-19 23:04:27.473 Sherlock[575] * -[NSCFDictionary setObject:forKey:]: attempt to insert nil value
2005-12-19 23:04:29.757 Sherlock[575] * -[NSCFDictionary setObject:forKey:]: attempt to insert nil value
2005-12-20 00:31:55.011 Sherlock[604] * -[NSCFDictionary setObject:forKey:]: attempt to insert nil val

And about 70 or so instances of this:

Incorrect start/end range ordering; fixing.
Range {0x0a4c, 0x0a4c} doesn't map to a codespace range.

Also an additional 70 or so instances of:

Can't create CMap Adobe-Identity-UCS2

And finally:

Range {0x2c, 0x2c} doesn't map to a codespace range.
Can't create CMap HANBIT-ForPDF-UCS2.
Can't create CMap HANBIT-ForPDF-UCS2.
Can't create CMap HANBIT-ForPDF-UCS2.
Can't create CMap HANBIT-ForPDF-UCS2.
z_alloc: 0 bytes in use out of 21392764 bytes overall; max 6442508.
2005-12-20 16:55:48.944 Sherlock[474] * -[NSCFDictionary setObject:forKey:]: attempt to insert nil value
2005-12-20 16:55:48.955 Sherlock[474] * -[NSCFDictionary setObject:forKey:]: attempt to insert nil value
2005-12-20 17:06:40.770 Sherlock[478] * -[NSCFDictionary setObject:forKey:]: attempt to insert nil value
2005-12-20 17:06:46.866 Sherlock[478] * -[NSCFDictionary setObject:forKey:]: attempt to insert nil value
2005-12-20 17:32:26.752 Internet Connect[331] Error: Unable to create connection ref for service id 1


I have no inkling as to what any of that actually means.



To do this, I would
need to have the output of your softwareupdate log
file, from the time that you re-installed 10.3.0 to
the present (I am assuming that you have used
Software Update. )


No.
After loading 10.3 from the retail kit for the first time, I dowloaded the updates manually from the Apple site (sorry, not very efficient, but I'm fairly new to Panther and didn't know about Software Update).

I don't know if here was an issue with Sherlock at that point because I didn't launch it.

After all upgrades were installed, I backed up the downloaded updates onto CD so I would have them in case of emergency. After the Re-install, the updates from 10.3 to 10.3.9 were enabled from the CD. Sherlock is the only app that is not working.

I will see if I can learn anything.


I'm very appreciative of the time you're spending on this.

BTW, I bought and thoroughly ran TechTool 4.1.1 according to the manufacturer's specs. While my machine is now running faster, the annoying problem is still there.


G4 Titanium Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Dec 22, 2005 6:26 PM in response to iconophile-ltd

Wish I had something useful to say, but I don't.

I tried my experiment and did not reproduce your problem. That is, I installed a system at 10.3.9, which has Safari 1.3, and then installed Safari 1.2 over that. But, Sherlock worked okay. There was one glitch where I did not get any response for Applecare (the spinner just kept going) but after stopping and restarting, that was no longer a problem. So, I am not keen on my Safari theory.

It is not clear what to make of the messages from your log. My guess is that the messages from Sherlock mean that it is trying to digest data that it does not recognize, which might be a symptom rather than a cause of the prpblem. The other error messages might or might not be related. There is nothing that popped up that points to some file, which is what I was hoping.

A question: do I properly understand one of your comments - that the magnifying glass simply does not show up any more? Also, have you been seeing the spinner at the right of the screen when you try to do a search?

Also, you said that you deleted a bunch of files. I suppose one of them was /Users/yourname/Library/Preferences/com.apple.Sherlock.plist, but it is time to ask to make sure.

Too bad that TechTool did not do fix the problem. At least, your work with TechTool probably exonerates your filesystem, which would be one of the standard things to try. A couple of more standard troubleshooting chores would be to repair permissions on your disk and to clean out the system caches with something like Panther Cache Cleaner. I am not very hopeful that these will fix this particular problem, but they are worth a try.

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