New 2011 MacBook Pro Heating Issue?

This is exactly what the mbp needs, there used to be an app called coolbook for the core 2 that under volted/clocked the cpu giving better battery life also but it doesnt work with the new chips. T

hey are such powerful computers now, running them at a fraction Of their speed is still plenty of power for most ppl which I guess is what turbo mode is about.

It just needs the added option of being able to prevent it kicking in or turning on the other cores when you need cool silence rather than blistering power?

I love how apple say 100C is 'within the specification of the chip' then shove it in a metal case and consider that it will be 'within specification for the human hand'.

the thing is we shouldnt need to use a cooling pad to use our laptops in comfort!

It defeats the whole purpose of a laptops portability and convenience.

Being so versatile is why we all want them and are willing to pay the extra for it and were even willing for them to be less powerful, so now they are no longer less powerful but heat noise is more of an issue now.

Personally I think its a mistake to compromise their versatility to make them more powerful as you alienate all the other users (the majority) who dont use video or 3d programs or if they do they do it on a tower which is what they are for.

It was the beginning of the compromised product era when they had to drop the term 'laptop' from their description because it was a health risk to ever have them on your lap....

I was told about a year ago by an apple store employee that apple believes laptops should not be used on your lap but on a desk.

I sent my 2011 MBP back because of the noise. Hopefully more people do this so apple realizes noise is also an important factor in laptop design, not just pretty casings. I hope some future model will be less noisy.

'I was told about a year ago by an apple store employee that apple believes laptops should not be used on your lap but on a desk.'

hence my comment: 'I was told about a year ago by an apple store employee that apple believes laptops should not be used on your lap but on a desk.'

Yep, if enough ppl send them back for the same reason you can bet we will see a cooler/quieter option in the next revision or two.

Now can I just hold out and put up with my core 2 for another year or so....

How to see if turbo boost is working on 13.3 i7 MBP? How can I check that?
Why turboboost dosen't work on windows under bootcamp ?

You can use program smc fan control and make sure set your rpm fan 2000 for default and if your playing games or video , music then raise up the fan to 3500

Hey guys,
long time lurker here, finally decided to join the discussion.

Moved from a 12'' 1.3 GHz powerbook to the latest 13'' MacbookPro i7, well I have seen the light!

Actually did notice the constant presence of the fan, even with the computer at idle - my friend's 13'' duo won't make any noise at all, even when watching movies on youtube.

Anyway, did try playing 1080p videos full screen both on the standard and HTML5 versions of youtube and the flash version does suck, getting >80 ºC and revved up fan, while CPU stays temp around 60 ºC with HTML5.

Been doing a little testing. Installed XcodeTools and brought the Processors Pane back in System Preferences. As you guys know, from here (or can even use directly the processor palette located in /Library/Application Support/HWPrefs/CPUPalette.app) you can disable hyper-threading (turbo boost) or even a whole core.

On heavy load (handbrake, yes >/dev/null instances etc) and with turbo boost disabled, of course the system is slower, not to mention when only one core is active - doh!

But watching a 1080p movie is doable with only one core active, and temp seems to be stable at 65 ºC - talking youtube flash version here, HTML5 movies don't even heat up the single working core.

Overall, I don't reckon using the Processor Preference pane is the solution, it might be a workaround for the time being.

It seems to me that the whole heat issue has to do with a poor management of the CPU power. CPU stressing tasks are going to speed up the fan and increase the heat - fact, there's nothing we can do about it.

But Apple definitely needs to come up with a better Processor Performance Management scheme IMHO.

Cheers 😉

"I was told about a year ago by an apple store employee that apple believes laptops should not be used on your lap but on a desk."

This is true - anytime you call them they always refer laptop as "portables", and I think that term is used on the Apple website too.

I couldnt agree more Bidello, when I think about what my G3 pizmo was capable of ALL those years ago (like watching movies) and how many times faster and more efficient the new 'portables' are It just makes no sense at all they cant do basic tasks and remain cool/quiet.

Ok my pizmo probably couldnt quite handle a full HD movie but you get my point, Hardware has doubled in speed many times over, *** has the software been doing? using it all up to do much the same thing it did with 1/10 the the power 7 years ago in many cases.

Anyone remember how fast OS 8 was on a G3? completely instantaneous opening of windows etc, now we have lots of eye candy and......spinning candy 🙂

As superior as apple is to windows there is still some bloat ware going on, no question in my mind.

ha

' * has the software been doing?'

since when has the abbreviation watthefuk been a swear word, three letters?

Ive been having the same fan problems for over a week now, but today the battery wont hold more than half a charge. I really hope this is something Apple gets on quick ...

Unfortunately my new MBP continues to have head and noisy fan issues even after the recent osx update.
It's packed up and will be shipped back tomorrow. Hopefully it's not too long before a fix or a refresh comes out.

-m

Same here!
I went to genius bar. Guy told me its not normal so he arranged for a return. The new one hasn't arrived yet. Will check it, if that doesn't work, this thing is going back.

Interesting.

So there are actually some Apple employees that ARE acknowledging the problem. Coz it is a problem, this computers should not be under heavy load by simply watching an HD movie.

As I said before, can watch an HD movie with only one core active (which goes on full load) and have an acceptable temp and fan noise. Can't stand watching the same movie and have two actual cores + 2 virtual ones active and the fan up to 6.2K rpm. Again, hate to play around with the processor palette, would like simply to tell the computer "hey look take it easy no need to show off, it's only an HD movie", via the good ol' settings in the Energy Saver pane maybe? Remember the "better performance, normal, and better energy savings" settings?

Unfortunately, I can't return my Macbook Pro, I bought it at the end of february.....

Apple sort it out now or we'll be sticking all these warm-to-hot laptops up yer bahookies :-))))))

FYI, there is another discussion in way about the 2011 battery issue:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2787732