How to connect to Time Capsule to Verizon FiOS Router?

Which router is better among FiOS router and Time Capsule?

It seems one has the option of connecting to the Verizon router to the TC either as as a double NAT or in bridge mode. The 1st generation TC worked fine in double NAT mode. The new 4th generation TC works the same way. But UPnP/DLNA services have failed although all gates are open on the network and everything is connected via Ethernet. The next step is to reconfigure to bridge mode and see happens. I can always go back.

I work for an IT company and I have set up several firewalls behind the fios modems. Hopefully this isn't too off topic as they are not time capsules, but a firewall nonetheless. I prefer to put the modems in bridge mode, especially the actiontek brand. Verizon says they will not help with programming them in bridged mode as it is an unsupported configuration, at least here it is. I have had issues accessing the firewall's interface and building vpn's while in dual nat'ing. How does this affect the time capsule? Well I can't say for sure because I just got my first TC last week and moved in to a new apartment this weekend any my fios service wont be delivered until next week. But I wonder if the dual nat'ing would affect remote access of the TC? I plan to put the fios modem in bridge modem. I have also plugged the wan port of a firewall directly to the ONT (where the backup battery is) and not used the fios router at all. That should also work at long as the TC is set for dhcp on the wan side

A Time Capsule is an Airport Extreme network base station/router with large drive encapsulated in the device.

After some consideration, I changed my configuration on a 4th generation TC from double NAT to bridge mode. Bottom line: good idea.

I now have two TC units on the network, both bridged on my protected home network; two Airport Express units at n-level that extend the network; two Mac minis; an iMac, a PC and a Netbook. Most of this stuff, including the 1st generation TC and, of course, the new one are connected by Ethernet or Netgear power units. But the iMac, a squeezebox touch, the iPad and the iPhone are wireless. The wireless speeds are amazing from the wireless AE's.

I had to change a bunch of printers and a raft of UPnP devices from 10.0.1.x to 198.168.1.x although some of them were "smart" enough to discover the newly configured network and join. The firewall proved far less forgiving of the bridged setup than the double NAT and had to be dialed back some. Everything appears to be working fine now, including a VPN hookup to my office.

The new TC (time machine) allowed me to put a 2TB drive on the network, which my Windows 7 computers see as Drive Z.

Hi - I have been studying all the discussions on hooking up Time Capsule to Verizon FIOS router. I have had no luck trying a wireless setup, so next was going to try ethernet connection from the TC WAN port to ethernet port 4 (yes, a previous discussion seemed to indicate only port 4 on the router would work with TC for some reason) and try again. I really just want to use the TC as a backup to my Mac - NOT as an 2nd wireless router or extened wireless network. If I get this to work, maybe I will try another configuration later -but really just want to try the simplest first - make sure there is nothing wrong with the TC (1st gen by the way - so it is dated - I did just update the sw though). Basically Airport can see the TC once it has been reset, but after the configuration is completed, and the TC reboots, it never comes back online. Thanks for the discussion so far, and thanks for any further discussions in this area.

can anyone help me with the same sitatuion but i am using a PC desktop and want to use a time machine backup but with a Verizon Fios router.

Thansk.

rc3rd wrote:

can anyone help me with the same sitatuion but i am using a PC desktop and want to use a time machine backup but with a Verizon Fios router.

Thansk.

You will need to spell this out a bit more..

Time Machine backup.. do you mean a time capsule. The Time Machine is software only on a Mac.. Time Capsule is a router with a hard disk in it. There are zero smarts in a TC. All smarts are in TM.

So when you say you want to use "time machine backup" with a PC.. that is impossible.. if you just mean the TC hardware, yes, bridge it and plug it into the fios router.. it is no harder than that.

You need airport utility for windows loaded onto the PC to do the adjustments.

You also need to use SMB type names for the TC networking.. all names must be short no spaces pure alphanumeric.

Sorry meant Time capsule and thanks much for responding to me so quickly. it seems like a catch-22 for me as i cnat seem to get the PC to see the TC so how do i "bridge" it? When i plug it into the Verizon Fois router the TC flashes yellow and i cant see it anywhere.

Also - how do i load airport utility onto a PC and then how do i find it? This is my dad's computer and iknow how to do it on my Mac - easy but it not sure where to go on this PC.

Ok, you setup the TC before plugging it into the network.. not after.

And you can set it up on your Mac.. that isn't an issue.

Simply select bridge mode. Change all the names to meet SMB standard. Then plug it into Fios.

If you do not have the Mac available, then,

On the PC you download the Airport Utility for windows.. although it should be on the CD that came with the TC.

Here is the version for xp. http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1391

Here is the version for win7.. if you want later one.. the above also works. http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1547

There is no win 8 version yet. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4587430?start=0&tstart=0

In bridge the TC will be available via the normal FIOS wireless but should also have its own wireless. If in doubt or having issues.. use ethernet. ALWAYS.. never adjust wireless by wireless, that is like cutting off the branch you are sitting on.

Then to access the TC in windows, open windows explorer..

Type the TC address in the address bar.

\\TCname or \\TCIPaddress, replacing the generic with actual name or IP obviously.

If you still have issues.. do the cycle again.

What do you want access to the TC from windows for.. ??

And are you intending to mix PC files and backups with TM backups from your Mac?

Be careful if you start doing those things.. create new folders and watch remaining space. It might even be better to create a disk image since you cannot partition the TC disk.

http://pondini.org/TM/Time_Capsule.html see Q3

You can only do the above from a Mac.

Well i probably should explain better... dad has a PC at his home and it is connected to the fios router. I wanted to give him the TC so he would have an automatic backup all the time and never have to worry about it. I thought it would be simple to do it as i am not very technically savy. But the more i look into it... the harder it seems. While your answer is great... it is still a bit complicated for me as i originally had trouble making a bridge connection and beyond that it may be too complicated based on above. I chose TC becuase it is so easy to use with my mac (i dont have FIOS though) that i figured it would be easy to do with his PC... bummer for me it isnt.

Ok.. is his PC a laptop..??

Laptop is the only computer type that really needs wireless for backup. A normal desktop PC you are far better off getting an external hdd.. cheap and easy. USB 2 is fairly slow but once the first backup is done, incrementals are no problem. Also MSbackup being the great bunch of rubbish it is, will not work to network drive in the lower end home versions.. only pro or ultimate. it is junk anyway as you cannot rebuild a PC easily from the backup. So first thing is to settle on a suitable backup software... then really pick hardware for what suits. TC doesn't really suit any PC software. TC is not impossible to use.. but lets say is going to require continual maintenance. From your point of view.. simple is best.

If it is a wireless connected laptop.. then it is worth pursuing.. there is no equivalent in the PC world which is as neat.

But you need to learn a bit about setting up devices for windows not Mac.

It is a PC - Lenovo all in one desktop. So it sounds like i have to just purchase a good dependable external hard drive and set up a software backup program that is reliable and forget the TC... right?

His new computer as USB 3.0 so at least it will be faster...Thanks for all your guidance even though it confirms my concerns... it really isnt doable easily thanks to the problems Verizon has created when combined with the TC.

rc3rd wrote:

It is a PC - Lenovo all in one desktop. So it sounds like i have to just purchase a good dependable external hard drive and set up a software backup program that is reliable and forget the TC... right?

That is certainly going to be 100% better.. and far far easier. Indeed I would say on any desktop machine, including Macs, use external drives.. the TC was designed as a TM backup device for laptops by wireless. That is the rational for it. External drive is cheaper, faster, better from local TM point of view. Or any other backup software.