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Q: MacBook Pro 2011 17" hard freeze

Overheat? The fans revved and suddenly I could use nothing but the cursor. Had to hold down the power switch to kill all and then re-power & startup. I wasn't doing anything unusual, but I had 7 apps open and was amid an auto-backup to TimeMachine.

Just a little disillusioned and concerned, wondering if anyone else there has experienced a hard freeze like this.

macbook pro 17" 2011, Mac OS X (10.6.6)

Posted on Mar 1, 2011 11:15 AM

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  • by Andrew Preece,

    Andrew Preece Andrew Preece Mar 20, 2011 3:53 PM in response to John Harrold
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    Mar 20, 2011 3:53 PM in response to John Harrold
    I have been able to reproduce the issue with my new 15" MBP 2.3Ghz.

    I had 4 copies of "openssl speed" running for 30 minutes with no issues... if I start smallluxGPU and set it even to just 4 cores + GPU while all the openssl commands are still running, it took less than 30 seconds for the UI freeze to occur!
  • by John Harrold,

    John Harrold John Harrold Mar 20, 2011 3:55 PM in response to sammcj2000
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    Mar 20, 2011 3:55 PM in response to sammcj2000
    There you go. I added you. Edit away
  • by TheRosta,

    TheRosta TheRosta Mar 20, 2011 4:11 PM in response to Rensoom
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    Mar 20, 2011 4:11 PM in response to Rensoom
    If you want to see yet another problem with the new MBP 2011, let your battery drop below 80%, change your battery indicator to 'Time' mode, plug in your magsafe and wait about 2 mins for the recharge time to stabilize, then start taxing the CPU. Your recharge time will start shooting upwards of 10+ hours and after a couple mins, the laptop will stop charging the battery altogether.
  • by Mike282,

    Mike282 Mike282 Mar 20, 2011 4:16 PM in response to Rensoom
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    Mar 20, 2011 4:16 PM in response to Rensoom
    I have another week to return my MBP, should I return it and wait for the problem to be solved?

    If Apple does address this, and it can't just be fixed through an update, will they have a recall?

    Basically, what I'm asking is if I hold out and it turns out to be hardware issue, am I screwed?

    Message was edited by: Mike282
  • by Horniasty,

    Horniasty Horniasty Mar 20, 2011 4:20 PM in response to Mike282
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    Mar 20, 2011 4:20 PM in response to Mike282
    Mike282 wrote:
    I have another week to return my MBP, should I return it and wait for the problem to be solved?

    If Apple does address this, and it can't just be fixed through an update, will they have a recall?

    Basically, what I'm asking is if I hold out and it turns out to be hardware issue, am I screwed?

    Message was edited by: Mike282


    If it is a hardware issue and they consider a piece of hardware to be faulty in all of the machines - they should definitely go with a recall, or at least provide everyone with an exchange possible in the nearest apple support service.. or whatever it's called where they repair stuff
  • by Montegentile,

    Montegentile Montegentile Mar 20, 2011 4:20 PM in response to Mike282
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    Mar 20, 2011 4:20 PM in response to Mike282
    I've tried to run SmallLuxGpu, with cpu4+gpu setting, cpu temp arrives at 90°C and UI freeze for my 15" 2GHz... in about 5 min.
  • by John Harrold,

    John Harrold John Harrold Mar 20, 2011 4:23 PM in response to Mike282
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    Mar 20, 2011 4:23 PM in response to Mike282
    Mike,

    By default it's supported for a year. If you have applecare, then it's supported for 3 years. If you bought it with the right kind of AMEX or any other credit card with warranty extension then it's supported for 2 or 4 years (respectively).

    Logic would suggest that either apple fixes this or they quit selling computers . I believe the policy is that after three returns they have to give you a new computer (that part is pure hearsay on my side).

    So, I'd say you're probably fine. However, if you don't need the computer (or cannot use the computer) until the fix, then I would just take it back.
  • by Peter Beck2,

    Peter Beck2 Peter Beck2 Mar 20, 2011 4:34 PM in response to VTGolfer
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    Mar 20, 2011 4:34 PM in response to VTGolfer
    I don't think that's it. I suffered through several mobo replacements due to that issue. The video once lost never came back. I can get this back every time, lately though the screensaver, before by rebooting. This one started for me right after upgrading to snow leopard.
  • by rocafellaice,

    rocafellaice rocafellaice Mar 20, 2011 4:38 PM in response to Rensoom
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    Mar 20, 2011 4:38 PM in response to Rensoom
    Lovely, that was incredibly easy to reproduce, just turned on Monkey Island and kablooey
  • by VTGolfer,

    VTGolfer VTGolfer Mar 20, 2011 4:43 PM in response to TheRosta
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    Mar 20, 2011 4:43 PM in response to TheRosta
    This is not new MacBook pros have done this for at least 3 generations that I know of. Under full load they draw more than the 85w power brick can provide. The battery provides the difference. If the battery doesn't have the juice performance is throttled back.
  • by conjorosa,

    conjorosa conjorosa Mar 20, 2011 4:46 PM in response to Rensoom
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    Mar 20, 2011 4:46 PM in response to Rensoom
    I was getting the freeze when I was using topaz denoise in photoshop cs5, so I followed the advice earlier in this thread and installed gfxcardstatus. I forced it to always use integrated gfx and, although a little slower at processing, there's been no UI freezes yet.
  • by blackpixi7,

    blackpixi7 blackpixi7 Mar 20, 2011 5:00 PM in response to Rensoom
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    Mar 20, 2011 5:00 PM in response to Rensoom
    My machine has been freezing everytime I render a large file in C4d, or edit some large files in AI or PS (500-600mb) with a few small apps running in the background (pandora, iphoto, chrome, itunes). When I need to Save a file out of PS or any CS5 app after I've used a lot of processing power, I get a beachball and I need to do a hard reset. Everytime. I did a clean install of osx, then installed cs5 master, and it still happens. *** apple
  • by Mike282,

    Mike282 Mike282 Mar 20, 2011 5:18 PM in response to blackpixi7
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    Mar 20, 2011 5:18 PM in response to blackpixi7
    blackpixi7:
    have you tried turning off automatic graphics switching in energy saver?
  • by Schwa72,

    Schwa72 Schwa72 Mar 20, 2011 5:18 PM in response to Andrew Preece
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    Mar 20, 2011 5:18 PM in response to Andrew Preece
    Andrew Preece wrote:
    I have been able to reproduce the issue with my new 15" MBP 2.3Ghz.

    I had 4 copies of "openssl speed" running for 30 minutes with no issues... if I start smallluxGPU and set it even to just 4 cores + GPU while all the openssl commands are still running, it took less than 30 seconds for the UI freeze to occur!

    So weird. Usually I'm the first guy to run into problems like this, but I'm replying to your post while running four instances of "openssl speed" and while running SmallLuxGPU on all 8 CPUs + GPU and it's been going for over 1300 seconds with no crashes or hangs. I need to stop tempting fate I guess.

    [(screenshot here)|http://home.earthlink.net/~kfscoll/images/MBPstresstest.JPG]

    FWIW my fans were pegged at full speed (6200rpm) but my CPU temp never exceeded 92C and actually dropped to around 88 before I quit.
  • by blackpixi7,

    blackpixi7 blackpixi7 Mar 20, 2011 5:24 PM in response to Mike282
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    Mar 20, 2011 5:24 PM in response to Mike282
    I have not, I haven't had time to peruse the entire thread, is that a fix or relief from these issues?
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